Quick Flow/Big Bore intake
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The honda is cheaper,has more power, revs higher(more fun to drive)
The only thing the z4 has that an s2k does is telescopic steering and it gets 30 on the hwy instead of 26mpg.
JDM>US>everything else>german
Hahaha...
Right.
Why dont some of you actually drive some of these cars before you run your mouth. Then maybe you'd understand the difference between a cheap honda and a german car.
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wannabe wrote:
how many old vw on the road, how many old toyotas, nissans, and hondas are there...?Also, honda's do NOT have chincy interior. They are not luxury cars, they are mostly econo boxes. the s2k is hondas first rwd car, give them a break. they did pretty good. I just have one question for u tho jim? if German cars are soooo much better than jap cars, why are there 3 jap cars for every german car on the road?
Becuase you won't find a BMW for 2000 dollars.
16 year old kids can't buy shit box BMW's and mod them becuase it costs too much.
You cannot even start to compare build quality of interior between Benz + BMW vs. Honda.
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wannabe wrote:
"Of the 11 sedans with the lowest predicted reliability, according to the survey, 10 were from European brands including Mercedes-Benz, Jaguar and BMW. Most Volkswagen models were rated far below average for reliability. The all-wheel drive Volkswagen Passat received the lowest reliability rating of any vehicle in the surveyOf the 32 car models with the highest reliability ratings, 29 were from Japan-based manufacturers. Toyota, with 16, and Honda, with 7, had the most vehicles with top reliability ratings. South Korean automaker Hyundai's Sonata earned a top spot in the ratings this year, a first for that manufacturer."
http://money.cnn.com/2004/11/08/pf/autos/cr_auto_reliability/
"Small cars
These models earned ratings Most and Least reliable in Consumer Reports' 2004 reliability survey.Most reliable Least reliable
Toyota Corolla Volkswagen Golf (turbo)
Scion xB Volkswagen Jetta (turbo)
Honda Civic Volkswagen New Beetle
Mazda3
Subaru Impreza
Toyota Echo
Mitsubishi Lancer (except Evo) "
http://www.forbes.com/forbeslife/vehicles/2006/04/20/reliable-vehicles-japanese_cx_dl_0424feat.html
"Only nine cars meet the most stringent standards for reliability--and they're all Japanese."
Just do a search on google for most releiable cars and see what u come up with.... Cant argue with field testing.
You don't buy a benz or a bmw or jag for reliablity.
Honda's and shit wouldn't be that reliable either if they had all the bells and whistles that the higher end luxuary cars do.
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I dont know about the rest of everyone else, but i know I wouldnt wanna buy a car for say 60,000 and have it brake and have to pay for WAAYYY overpriced labor and parts when I could buy a honda.
When it all comes down to it, Cars were invented for one thing, to make it easier to get from point A to point B. I'm not disputing that german cars have luxury or nice interiors. But Honda,toyota and nissan are good CARS, not semi OK cars that have cool interiors and lots of cool features. Honestly what features do u get in new 3 series that u cant get in a new accord? I dont know my german cars well enough to know if thats a good comparison or not, but w/e.
I do, however, admire body lines of german cars. They are much more artistic and thought out than most any japanese car. But I wouldn't buy a car just cuz it looked nice.
A benz isnt even really a status symbol anymore. Anyone can get a loan, Not saying you did, cuz I know you a ballah!
but still, I know i will probably never have the money to buy a mercedes, but that doesn't really bother me. I think brand new cars are overpriced the way it is, let alone luxury cars.
It's kinda like buying a first class ticket on an airplane. u get a little more room, free pretzels, maybe a scotch if its a long flight, while the people sitting behind u payed half of what u did and will get there at the same time u will. people who drive euros would be the first class, jap car drivers would be standard flight, and the people driving dsms would be standyby...lol
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wannabe wrote:
Honestly what features do u get in new 3 series that u cant get in a new accord?Dynamic Stability Control:
**Brake Fade Compensation **-- As brakes heat up, they require additional foot pressure. This system compensates by adding pressure and reducing pedal force.
Brake Standby -- If the driver lifts off the gas pedal abruptly, the system snugs the pads against the rotor to reduce reaction time and stopping distance.
Brake Drying -- responds to the rain sensor (rain sensing windshield wipers are standard) by periodically moving the pads closer to the rotors to wipe them dry during wet conditions.
Comfort Stop -- eases brake pressure as you come to a stop to eliminate that jerking feel when the car comes to rest.
Start-off Assistant -- when facing uphill, this feature will hold brake pressure when you release the brake pedal to keep you from rolling back until you step on the gas.
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JDMeater wrote:
When I ordered it from them this morning guys,,,,, they told me with this kit their seeing 10-15hp. no s*&t!And as for all you wantn a peice of the VR6, you'll have to wait till I see you on the track, so I can embarass you in front of all you other JDMers.
I dont think you will embarass anyone running a 14...........
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JDMeater wrote:
I think i started something and unleashed some pentup hate. We all have the cars we love thats why we are on this forum. JDM,Euro, or Dem whatever.I am not hating on you, just hating on your so called JDM eater.......it is all in fun and games:p
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nissankingcab wrote:
Dynamic Stability Control:**Brake Fade Compensation **-- As brakes heat up, they require additional foot pressure. This system compensates by adding pressure and reducing pedal force.
Brake Standby -- If the driver lifts off the gas pedal abruptly, the system snugs the pads against the rotor to reduce reaction time and stopping distance.
Brake Drying -- responds to the rain sensor (rain sensing windshield wipers are standard) by periodically moving the pads closer to the rotors to wipe them dry during wet conditions.
Comfort Stop -- eases brake pressure as you come to a stop to eliminate that jerking feel when the car comes to rest.
Start-off Assistant -- when facing uphill, this feature will hold brake pressure when you release the brake pedal to keep you from rolling back until you step on the gas.
But accords have I-VTAK! -
wannabe wrote:
how many old vw on the road, how many old toyotas, nissans, and hondas are there...?Also, honda's do NOT have chincy interior. They are not luxury cars, they are mostly econo boxes. the s2k is hondas first rwd car, give them a break. they did pretty good. I just have one question for u tho jim? if German cars are soooo much better than jap cars, why are there 3 jap cars for every german car on the road?
s2k was not hondas first rear wheel drive car. The Honda "S500" for which the S2000 is the "Grandson" of was the first RWD Honda.
You also have the NSX which was mid engine rear drive, and then the s2000 which is front engine rear drive. Honda has had more experience making cars than a LOT of companies, espcially at a high level.
German cars aren't on the road because there are fewer German car dealers, the cars COST more both up front and in the long run.
Personally there are a few Acuras I would put head to head w/ the Germans in luxury at certain price ranges and they are just as nice.
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