Junkyard Turbo Setup
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PSI2HI wrote:
For most people a chip would work if it was burnt on the dyno and tuned perfectly. Most people dont do that though they order these chips offline that are burnt based off a setup and they are never close the A/F maps are junk and they make no power. For simplicity, i can take a car put a AFC on it, slap the wideband on, go out for a half hour and be done w/ a perfectly tuned car now the persaon doesn't have to worry about finding a dyno, finding someone to adjust their chip, and finding someone to reburn the chip.I have a base map burned typically to get the car in range of a good tune. Since Dyno tuning is usually around $100 an hour, I like to get it as close as I can before I bring it in. I run a nitroused ls/vtec right now, but it is soon to be supercharged around 7lbs. If you can promise me a near perfect tune on your wideband with and AFC for a descent price, you've got yourself a new customer. I haven't used an AFC before, but if it really is that easy I'll bite on it.
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seanjohn wrote:
I have a base map burned typically to get the car in range of a good tune. Since Dyno tuning is usually around $100 an hour, I like to get it as close as I can before I bring it in. I run a nitroused ls/vtec right now, but it is soon to be supercharged around 7lbs. If you can promise me a near perfect tune on your wideband with and AFC for a descent price, you've got yourself a new customer. I haven't used an AFC before, but if it really is that easy I'll bite on it.You have that green 4dr integra? I'd turbo way before i ever thought of supercharging, why no turbo?
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PSI2HI wrote:
You have that green 4dr integra? I'd turbo way before i ever thought of supercharging, why no turbo?I've got a suzuka blue crx hf. The reason I'm going to supercharge is I'm running about 10.4:1 compressions plus a 100shot now. I'm gonna drop the shot to 75, and I don't want to change the bottom end setup...the most boost I will probably run is 7lbs or so, and for that amount of boost a JR is cheaper. Do you have a rom burner Nick, or editor of any sort (Hondata, AEM)?
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LankorDie wrote:
I'm also quite interested in this question. BTW sean we can do datalogging if you ever need to do that.Do you have a Wide Band Sean?
I thought about buying one with my brother, I'm actually looking into it now. But if SLS isn't too expensive I might just end up using theirs.
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seanjohn wrote:
I've got a suzuka blue crx hf. The reason I'm going to supercharge is I'm running about 10.4:1 compressions plus a 100shot now. I'm gonna drop the shot to 75, and I don't want to change the bottom end setup...the most boost I will probably run is 7lbs or so, and for that amount of boost a JR is cheaper. Do you have a rom burner Nick, or editor of any sort (Hondata, AEM)?Shit, i've seen you drive down Fiechtner past the shop numerous times. I think you were in GF when i was up there this past summer w/ my white Teg. IntegraGSR_98 has a editotr/romulator and i have the wideband, etc..
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PSI2HI wrote:
Shit, i've seen you drive down Fiechtner past the shop numerous times. I think you were in GF when i was up there this past summer w/ my white Teg. IntegraGSR_98 has a editotr/romulator and i have the wideband, etc..I was never in GF, but you've maybe seen me around town.
I'm giving this AFC option a bit more thought, and I will look into it. HOWEVER...
There is still a chance I'd like to stay the chipped route. In this case, I need to figure out what kind of editor to use for a pr3, then we could strap it on your wideband and create/burn maps. I wish I had some experience with map editing.
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If you want to stick with the chipped route the minimum I would recommend would be to go with an older Hondata 2b. (right around $400 for this setup) That way there will be boost tables, legit heavily used software, and I have everything necessary to tune and install it. The only thing necessary would be the use of my stage 4 system for datalogging during the initial tune.
Otherwise I also have Uberdata laying around, (right around $25 for this setup) and although it has zero datalogging capabilities, I know tuftes wideband should be able to handle rpm to a/f ratio logging.
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integra_gsr98 wrote:
If you want to stick with the chipped route the minimum I would recommend would be to go with an older Hondata 2b. (right around $400 for this setup) That way there will be boost tables, legit heavily used software, and I have everything necessary to tune and install it. The only thing necessary would be the use of my stage 4 system for datalogging during the initial tune.Otherwise I also have Uberdata laying around, (right around $25 for this setup) and although it has zero datalogging capabilities, I know tuftes wideband should be able to handle rpm to a/f ratio logging.
I'd rather stay away from hondata just for cost reasons, and would prefer to tune with uberdata or turbo edit witha wideband. How much for your time and a burned chip?
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We could work something out for that. Is the ECU for the vehicle chipped already? Or does it still have to be socketed?
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integra_gsr98 wrote:
We could work something out for that. Is the ECU for the vehicle chipped already? Or does it still have to be socketed?Well, I was planning on sending it away to get it socketed, but if you know how to do it, I'll give you some business. I'll need a map for my soon-to-be setup, and then we'll have to do it again in about a year when I go turbo. Let me know.
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