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My DSM is friggen slow. Any thoughts?

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  • TsiTomT Offline
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    TsiTom
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    JohnW;181369 wrote:
    spun steel cat

    Is it still a cat or a test pipe? (that may be choking some airflow)

    I would also get rid of that mas for a 2nd gen...even upgrade the injectors...

    Do you still have stock IC piping?

    Tom Opgrand
    1993 Talon TSi - Drive it , break it, fix it, repeat.
    2008 Kawasaki 1600 Mean Streak
    2011 Camry

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    • JohnWJ Offline
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      weshole;181375 wrote:
      Based on what you have as far as mods go (very modest), you may be able to net a high 13 sec pass at best. It may be nothing more than launch/ driving technique. Launch alone can do alot for cutting time off your e.t.

      That could be it, I was unable to avoid the water box as doing so would have involved going into the median and knocking over a bunch of stuff, so I did actually get some wheel spin at the launch.

      I was launching at around 4k as I am still on a stock clutch as I haven't changed out my tranny yet for one with working 2nd gear syncros. I've got an ACT 2600 sitting in the garage tho.

      90 Civic DX hatch
      D16a6/y8 mini me

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      • wesholeW Offline
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        #9

        TsiTom;181379 wrote:
        Is it still a cat or a test pipe? (that may be choking some airflow)

        I would also get rid of that mas for a 2nd gen...even upgrade the injectors...

        Do you still have stock IC piping?

        That would entail getting an AFC or other form of fuel controller.

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        • JohnWJ Offline
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          JohnW
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          TsiTom;181379 wrote:
          Is it still a cat or a test pipe? (that may be choking some airflow)

          its a high flow cat with a metal core instead of ceramic. its basically the least restrictive you can get without a test pipe.

          I would also get rid of that mas for a 2nd gen...even upgrade the injectors...

          I am planning on doing that, trying to save up for a few mods here next month.

          Do you still have stock IC piping?

          yep, sure do.

          also im running 91 octane

          90 Civic DX hatch
          D16a6/y8 mini me

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          • RidinRailsR Offline
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            JohnW;181369 wrote:
            BTW who all lives in amber valley, I see a ton of nice cars out there, I'm sure you've seen the green machine out front by amber crossing.

            i see it, and hear it...belt squealing !! haha i always see a girl driving it though...or i think so anyways.

            Yeah thers lots of nice cars there though, 2 evo's, 2 sti's, nice older 2.5rs..ect.

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            • JohnWJ Offline
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              weshole;181381 wrote:
              That would entail getting an AFC or other form of fuel controller.

              I could run a 2g mas w/o an afc, just needs a few lines of code in the ecu to compensate.

              90 Civic DX hatch
              D16a6/y8 mini me

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              • TsiTomT Offline
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                Ive only read a little bit about that program...but cant you compensate for larger injectors as well?....

                Tom Opgrand
                1993 Talon TSi - Drive it , break it, fix it, repeat.
                2008 Kawasaki 1600 Mean Streak
                2011 Camry

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                • JohnWJ Offline
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                  RidinRails;181384 wrote:
                  i see it, and hear it...belt squealing !! haha i always see a girl driving it though...or i think so anyways.

                  Yeah thers lots of nice cars there though, 2 evo's, 2 sti's, nice older 2.5rs..ect.

                  My wife drives it since our other car isn't working right now. And the belt does suck. 🙂

                  90 Civic DX hatch
                  D16a6/y8 mini me

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                  • D S ohMD Offline
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                    If you are going to do a 2g mas, make sure you upgrade to 550s. Buy an AFC at the same time. If you dont want to spend 300 bucks on a wideband, take it to Tintmasters and have them tune it on theirs.

                    I wanna go fast!

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                    • JohnWJ Offline
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                      JohnW
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                      TsiTom;181386 wrote:
                      Ive only read a little bit about that program...but cant you compensate for larger injectors as well?....

                      Yep, you sure can, you can also do a stutter box, take out fuel cut, reset knock counts, and actually make the range of tuning wider.

                      I have a heavily moddified ecu program waiting to go in but im scurred cuz I'm not sure if I did everything right 🙂

                      90 Civic DX hatch
                      D16a6/y8 mini me

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                      • D S ohMD Offline
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                        D S ohM
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                        Chipped ECUs are the shit. Im hoping to get one over the winter while my car is down.

                        I wanna go fast!

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                        • JohnWJ Offline
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                          D S ohM;181388 wrote:
                          If you are going to do a 2g mas, make sure you upgrade to 550s. Buy an AFC at the same time. If you dont want to spend 300 bucks on a wideband, take it to Tintmasters and have them tune it on theirs.

                          Im hoping to get a cheap FMIC setup, injectors, 2g mas, and a dsmlink setup coming up here next month.

                          90 Civic DX hatch
                          D16a6/y8 mini me

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                            3_Series;181372 wrote:
                            Don't know if they would help too much, but you could try investing in some iridium plugs (Denso, NGK) for better spark. They're supposed to be particularly beneficial for forced induction applications.

                            ngk brp7es or brp6es is all you need, dont spend money on expensive plugs....

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                              D S ohM
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                              JohnW;181391 wrote:
                              Im hoping to get a cheap FMIC setup, injectors, 2g mas, and a dsmlink setup coming up here next month.

                              DSMlink is awesome if you have the extra money to spend on it. Way better than an AFC. Good choice.

                              SmitEvo;181394 wrote:
                              ngk brp7es or brp6es is all you need, dont spend money on expensive plugs....

                              Well put. All you really need is some cheap NGK plugs. .028-.029 gap.

                              I wanna go fast!

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                                [QUOTE=D S ohM;181395]DSMlink is awesome if you have the extra money to spend on it. Way better than an AFC. Good choice.

                                Ya, I figure since I already have some experience tuning with logs on a computer I should be able to use DSMlink fairly easily. My ecu is already socketed besides. It is expensive but if you remember how many ppls afcs get stolen around here, it evens out dont you think?

                                90 Civic DX hatch
                                D16a6/y8 mini me

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                                  JohnW
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                                  Well, hopefully I'll see some ppl at the track and decide to be social. Maybe you guys can give me some tips on driving and whatnot.

                                  90 Civic DX hatch
                                  D16a6/y8 mini me

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                                    D S ohM
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                                    JohnW;181396 wrote:
                                    [QUOTE=D S ohM;181395]DSMlink is awesome if you have the extra money to spend on it. Way better than an AFC. Good choice.

                                    Ya, I figure since I already have some experience tuning with logs on a computer I should be able to use DSMlink fairly easily. My ecu is already socketed besides. It is expensive but if you remember how many ppls afcs get stolen around here, it evens out dont you think?

                                    I take mine out every night to avoid that issue.

                                    I wanna go fast!

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                                      integra_gsr98
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                                      I'd put the stock ECU in it.

                                      My old 1g ran 13.5 @ 95 w/ a 8.8 1/8 mile with exhaust a UICP pipe and a boost controller. By the end of the summer I had it, it was running 8.5 1/8 miles but I was back in Minot so it never made it back down to the 1/4.

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                                        D S ohM;181405 wrote:
                                        [QUOTE=JohnW;181396]

                                        I take mine out every night to avoid that issue.

                                        I am inattentive, and lack discipline.

                                        90 Civic DX hatch
                                        D16a6/y8 mini me

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                                          D S ohM
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                                          JohnW;181407 wrote:
                                          [QUOTE=D S ohM;181405]

                                          I am inattentive, and lack discipline.

                                          I am too for the most part, but that is a little investment that i would like to protect.

                                          I wanna go fast!

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