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My DSM is friggen slow. Any thoughts?

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  • treimcheT Offline
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    treimche
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    #30

    If you're on a stock clutch, and can't launch very hard then thats probably the biggest factor in you running 14.3. Figure for .1 sec faster to the 60 foot mark, normally will net you about .2 sec faster in the 1/4 mile. So depending on your launching ability, clutch holding or slipping, and tires spinning from being wet, you could be right on par.

    DSMLink is pretty good for a cheaper standalone style engine management. It's still not a full stand alone, but it is extremely easy to use and has tons of support.

    Troy
    2009 Yamaha R1
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    • JohnWJ Offline
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      I don't know what the 60ft was, I didn't keep the timeslips 😞 I'm going to try and focus on getting off the line better this weekend, hopefully my times will improve as a result. That time was from my first time out at the track so I'm sure I was n00bing it up something fierce.

      The way I figure, DSM link, actually having a dedicated user interface can't be any harder than what I'm doing now, and god knows theres more support. It of course has the ability to change maps but the real bonus is that it contains all of the little addons that you can put into the stock program, except without inputing code, editing hex, or remapping memory addresses. A definate plus. I think an advantage over the other standalone solutions is that DSMlink is made for one car specifically, even between the 1g and 2g, so there is no fiddling around or anything, it just works.

      90 Civic DX hatch
      D16a6/y8 mini me

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      • JoelJ Offline
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        Joel
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        #32

        are you dumping the clutch at 4k or slipping it? my 1 tip: no lift shift into 3rd and 4th..

        no race car? becuz homeowner...

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        • JohnWJ Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #33

          I was dumping it. Ridin Rails gave me some tips that I plan to implement. I'll try no lift on 3rd and 4th as well.

          90 Civic DX hatch
          D16a6/y8 mini me

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          • integra_gsr98I Offline
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            #34

            Don't no lift on 3rd and 4th and don't shift at redline when shifting into 3rd or 4th gear. The little 14b turd doesn't make power all the way up top.

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            • mr.98gsxM Offline
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              #35

              ^That's true. If you are trying to improve your time just buy more go fast parts. I'd also look into getting it professionally tuned.

              gotta pay to play man

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              • amichezeA Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #36

                I usually slipped it around 5.5k and shifted about 6.8-7k. Seemed to work about the best for me.

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                • integra_gsr98I Offline
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                  #37

                  the 14b works, slowvo on here ran 12.1 with a 14b back in the day. You'd be better off putting the stock ECU back in the car w/ the stock fuel maps, etc and shifting before redline. I'd shift closer to 6500 rpm in the higher gears.

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                  • mr.98gsxM Offline
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                    #38

                    ^slowvo probably didn't have a stock motor though too did he? And I'd guess he's running aem

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                    • integra_gsr98I Offline
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                      integra_gsr98
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                      #39

                      slowvo had a stock 2g/1g motor with an AFC.

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                      • mr.98gsxM Offline
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                        ^12.1 1/8 mile maybe haha. I don't believe anybody ran a 12.1 1/4 mile on a stock motor with a 14b.

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                          mr.98gsx;181526 wrote:
                          ^12.1 1/8 mile maybe haha. I don't believe anybody ran a 12.1 1/4 mile on a stock motor with a 14b.

                          He did it....n00b

                          http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=618471218

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                            O I believe you can run a 12.1 with a 14b. Shit I think people are into the 10s with 14b's now. But not on a stock motor. I guess it comes down to "what is stock." To me stock is how the car comes from the factory 🙂

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                              #43

                              mr.98gsx;181538 wrote:
                              O I believe you can run a 12.1 with a 14b. Shit I think people are into the 10s with 14b's now. But not on a stock motor. I guess it comes down to "what is stock." To me stock is how the car comes from the factory 🙂

                              He had a 2g head/1g bottom....

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                                #44

                                I'm running a 14b on my car and I have noticed that if I don't shift into 4th at the end of the track my time is better than shifting even though I am pulling some pretty high rpm. I have even hit the rev limiter a few times. Maybe I just can't shift fast I don't know??

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                                  SmitEvo;181541 wrote:
                                  He had a 2g head/1g bottom....

                                  Stock fuel?

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                                    #46

                                    mr.98gsx;181544 wrote:
                                    Stock fuel?

                                    110 octane

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                                    • RidinRailsR Offline
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                                      RidinRails
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                                      #47

                                      something probably just triped the sensor so the time stoped 🙂

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                                      • mr.98gsxM Offline
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                                        mr.98gsx
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                                        #48

                                        Sorry to steal the thread,
                                        but stock injectors? fuel pump? I'm assuming mbc turned up? Any head work?

                                        I'm just trying to find what is all done to the car. If 12s are so easy to hit, how come you don't see every dsm on the street running 12s or better? I've got a pte50trim, should i be able to hit 10s? lol

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                                        • RidinRailsR Offline
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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          mr.98gsx;181555 wrote:
                                          Sorry to steal the thread,
                                          but stock injectors? fuel pump? I'm assuming mbc turned up? Any head work?

                                          I'm just trying to find what is all done to the car. If 12s are so easy to hit, how come you don't see every dsm on the street running 12s or better? I've got a pte50trim, should i be able to hit 10s? lol

                                          do a little research....

                                          I'm sure he had some sort of walbro fuel pump, an AFC, and the boost to whatever a 14b can handle...20psi probably....

                                          ..if you watched the video, even they were shocked that he ran that time
                                          and no you wont run 10's with a 2g cuz they're heavy as shit, the tranny will break and so will the motor probably.

                                          but like i said... sometihng probably tripped the sensor so it stopped the time at 12.1 🙂

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