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  • SmitEvoS Offline
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    Christmas is a holiday now to make money not to celebrate the birth of jesus, just like Easter is supposed to celebrate the ressurection of Jesus Christ not some silly easter bunny(and to make more money) They were first followed because of religion not because of santa clause and easter eggs. Society did that.....

    .... back to Jesus Christ, Islam and Judiasm believe in him as a prophet not the choosen one. Also, judiasm, islam and christianity broke off their separate ways in Moses time.

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      i dont know if i believe in god cause a few things have happened to my family that makes me believe thete isnt one

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        2wheeler;197888 wrote:
        And why do so many "Christians" not live their life according to the Bible. It is the word of Christ, right?

        Christians believe in Original Sin, (all of mankind is held responsible for the sins of Adam and Eve) which only the sacrament of baptism in the name of Christ can expiate.

        Taken from http://muslim-canada.org/islam_christianity.html

        ( I was looking up the similarities between Islam and Christianity)

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          the demons believe there is a god. so believing isnt everything. X-mas is a symbolic holiday but in all reality it is winter solstice which was and is a pagan holiday. same with easter which is spring solstice. A crazy guy named Constantine came up with he made Christianity as a religion that is acceptable to all people the catholics and the other religions. opps just rambling

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            91teggy
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            darkelvis;197892 wrote:
            I've cast my vote, I'll stay out of the conversation as long as possible but this quote amuses me...

            yea it isn't accurate down to the second, minute, day, month, or year but using the half-life of various elements (specifically carbon in this statement) can get you a ballpark figure. That ballpark figure goes WAAAAAAY past when god "created" the world. 🙂

            Or so they believe its more of a theory than anything i dont know if they are wrong or right but im not a scientist but from what i have read its accurate for a few thousand years after that its a guessing game the technology hasnt been around long enough to give any real proof.

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              Evolution does not disprove God, I've always wondered why peopled thought that...

              If God is all knowing and all powerful, which I believe, then the laws of Physics and everything that control the universe are there for a reason. He made everything the way it was so there could NEVER be any definitive way for us to prove/disprove his existence. Proving he exists forces people to believe in him which is something he doesn't want. I could go in depth but I'm too tired to.

              Suffice to say, he made everything for reasons we'll never know until after death.

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                Used;197907 wrote:
                the demons believe there is a god. so believing isnt everything. X-mas is a symbolic holiday but in all reality it is winter solstice which was and is a pagan holiday. same with easter which is spring solstice. A crazy guy named Constantine came up with he made Christianity as a religion that is acceptable to all people the catholics and the other religions. opps just rambling

                Yes and Pagans believed in many of Gods. But they still had one main god. If it wasnt the sun than Zeus....either way almost every major religion believes in a main god. Also, Constantine did not create Christianity, he created it as a church because he had a vision if he fought under the christian symbol he would win. There were christian believers before him....

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                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by kzrider
                  I believe in god.

                  I dont really go to church much because I work every weekend, but I believe in god.
                  Not real knowlegable either, you can drill me with questions and I prolly couldnt answer a single one, put its not going to change my beliefs. Sure its prolly a sin to never go to church, but I work hard and hopefully I will be forgiven

                  91teggy;197890 wrote:
                  It depends on your religion if you are catholic you are going to hell for sure missing church is the same as murder. Other religions are different belief will get you by.

                  Oh shit looks like I am going to hell for sure then!

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                    StangerBanger96;197909 wrote:
                    Evolution does not disprove God, I've always wondered why peopled thought that...

                    If God is all knowing and all powerful, which I believe, then the laws of Physics and everything that control the universe are there for a reason. He made everything the way it was so there could NEVER be any definitive way for us to prove/disprove his existence. Proving he exists forces people to believe in him which is something he doesn't want. I could go in depth but I'm too tired to.

                    Suffice to say, he made everything for reasons we'll never know until after death.

                    Wish I could have said it that simple....

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                      kzrider;197913 wrote:
                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by kzrider
                      I believe in god.

                      I dont really go to church much because I work every weekend, but I believe in god.
                      Not real knowlegable either, you can drill me with questions and I prolly couldnt answer a single one, put its not going to change my beliefs. Sure its prolly a sin to never go to church, but I work hard and hopefully I will be forgiven

                      Oh shit looks like I am going to hell for sure then!

                      You wont go to hell for missing church...that is ludicrous

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                        According to the catholic religion missing mass is the same as murder, sex before marriage, contraceptives i could go on all day but you get the point.

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                          91teggy;197916 wrote:
                          According to the catholic religion missing mass is the same as murder, sex before marriage, contraceptives i could go on all day but you get the point.

                          Well the only problem with that it is a double edged sword. Since I am assuming a catholic could have a bad thought in their head throughout the day, such as, damn that chick may be hot and I want to bone her. That would be regarded a sin and a sin is punishable to the eternal fires of hell. It also says in the bible that no sin is greater than the other. So murder=bad though tin head....technically.

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                            Exactly and catholics stand by this as other religions kind of stray from such obscene rules. I guess you could call them lazy.

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                              91teggy;197919 wrote:
                              Exactly and catholics stand by this as other religions kind of stray from such obscene rules. I guess you could call them CRAZY.

                              FIX.T

                              j/k.... catholics are strict, I love the traditions and values that they have. The only thing that bothers me is that they judge and no one should be judging other than GOD.

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                                91teggy;197890 wrote:
                                It depends on your religion if you are catholic you are going to hell for sure missing church is the same as murder. Other religions are different belief will get you by.

                                SmitEvo;197915 wrote:
                                You wont go to hell for missing church...that is ludicrous

                                wow, feel a little better i guess, still kinda confused though.
                                SmitEvo, you really know your shit.

                                I believe this thread will just continue to be one big argument. No matter how hard anybody tries this argument will still continue without one person right or wrong.

                                This argument has not been settled even after thousands of wars, thousands of deaths, and thousands of years.

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                                  91teggy;197916 wrote:
                                  According to the catholic religion missing mass is the same as murder, sex before marriage, contraceptives i could go on all day but you get the point.

                                  in the same breath i had a devote catholic tell me A.)that the pope was closer to god than anybody else, and B.)we are all created equal in the eyes of god. contradictory statements?

                                  i was researching on christian history and the sponsored link on the side of the page was for the movie golden compass. arent they the ones complaining about how the movie is anti-god?

                                  sorry for the rambeling.

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                                    kzrider;197921 wrote:
                                    wow, feel a little better i guess, still kinda confused though.
                                    SmitEvo, you really know your shit.

                                    I believe this thread will just continue to be one big argument. No matter how hard anybody tries this argument will still continue without one person right or wrong.

                                    This argument has not been settled even after thousands of wars, thousands of deaths, and thousands of years.

                                    QFT! You will never make everyone happy and we will continue to fight until the end of times. Everyone has to find out their own way one way or the other. Thats the tough thing about religion.

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                                      Theres no argument here their is a GOD there is Jesus there is a Hold spirit!! try proving the bible wrong the bible is holy words. No book has stood the test of time like the bible has there is also evidence that there was a man named Jesus and that he was crucified by the romans back in the day. I just finished Teen Challenge which is a 13 month faith based treatment and just seeing and hearing god talk to you and others makes believers of all. People that were so lost in there life of drugs came to Teen Challenge and became completely new people. Ignorance is bliss

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                                        Everybody is equal in gods eyes except catholics they are better than everyone else because they are right in their beliefs.

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                                          SmitEvo;197920 wrote:
                                          FIX.T

                                          j/k.... catholics are strict, I love the traditions and values that they have. The only thing that bothers me is that they judge and no one should be judging other than GOD.

                                          yeah have noticed the whole strict thing at my church. This is prolly also a sin, but alot of the diehard catholics at my church are just downright assholes. OOps i didnt say that.

                                          But like i said earlier, i dont follow my religion strictly, and I believe in alot of the things, yet others are a little unnecessary. And I am also against the judgement thing. Nobody should judge you except for god himself. Nobody else can determine if you are worthy of heaven.

                                          "Only god can judge me now" Tupac.

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