ENEOS FULLY synthetic oil
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FG2;200338 wrote:
There is much to be discussed on this oil, and I would love to talk more indepth about it in person. It doesn't compare to any other oil, because it isn't built the same as the others. It is the only FULLY/TRULY/NOT KINDA/NOT SORTA synthetic oil on the market. When you buy any brand new car from Toyota for example, it comes with Toyota's Fully Synthetic oil (read the fine print on the label and it reads ENEOS) This is the stuff that is put in cars at the manufacturing plant to break in motors (in many cases, not all company's choose to use fully synthetic).Stop into the shop and smell it, rub it, and look at it's viscosity. You will agree there are 'synthetic' oils (all look, smell, flow nearly the same) and there is ENEOS.
And although I see your standpoint, please show me where any other oil claims to be "Fully Synthetic" on the face of the label in bold lettering. Here's ENEOS's http://www.eneos.us/images/SAE-0W-50-1small.jpg
http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/sso.aspx states 100% synthetic oil.
Again, I'm not trying to argue, I'd love to see this stuff and try it. Would you mind if I brought some 0w50 Amsoil in so we can look at them side by side? I think it would be cool to see them next to each other and compare (using the ol' calibrated finger) lubricity, etc..
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tjamz;200341 wrote:
http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/sso.aspx states 100% synthetic oil.Again, I'm not trying to argue, I'd love to see this stuff and try it. Would you mind if I brought some 0w50 Amsoil in so we can look at them side by side? I think it would be cool to see them next to each other and compare (using the ol' calibrated finger) lubricity, etc..
I would love for you to bring some Amsoil 0w-50, only problem is, Amsoil along with everyone else doesn't have the technology to produce a Fully Synthetic 0w-50. You could bring in a 0w-30 and compare with ENEOS's 0w-20. Of course I work for a business, and am trying to sell something, which will put everyone on their heals when I preach about it. I don't know every specific about the oil, however I can obtain particular information for WHY ENEOS is better than any other oil on the market. Amsoil add's Zinc's and other unnecessary additives that cause it to loose it's lubrication. One major point I can add, is that in any oil test you will never see ENEOS's name, as it outperforms each and every one. ENEOS has been in the U.S. and A. for a long time, just not marketed through shops. It was marketed through dealerships as private Toyota/Mitsubishi/etc.. labels. Remember, the oil that many Japanese companies trust as their 'break in' oil for the production plant, is ENEOS.
Bring a quart by Chuck...I think you might just have found a new oil
Jason
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Parker;200379 wrote:
its unlike anything i have ever seen.... dosent even smell/tatse like motor oil... yes i did taste itChuck was just here, and he tasted it as well...and continued to lick his chops for a few minutes after! I guess we know it lubricates the tongue well!
I will be the first to admit that I am far from an oil expert. I spent about an hour at SEMA learning about it, and after being educated on what all the weights really mean and how ENEOS is created, I was very excited to offer it to my customers. I have put in an email to the head of ENEOS's US market, asking for specifics regarding ENEOS vs. Amsoil and Mobil 1 to be exact. I will post the results when I get them.
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Jason is right...no 0W-50 from Amsoil (would have sworn they had one back in the day....could be wrong). At any rate 0W-20 is a product we can compare apples/apples with.... maybe even do some makeshift tests. I'll try and stop by on Friday w/ some 0W-20 (if I can find any...I use 0W-30 regularly), I will give my honest opinions as I'm sure Jason will as well....who knows, I may have found a new oil.
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Parker is right...doesn't taste bad at all.
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the appropriate test of course is to run an oil, and then send in a sample for oil analysis after you've run it for a while.
I'm looking at running something called RBI Biosyn in my A4 because direct-injected engines seem to suffer from fuel dillution in the oil. RS4 owners are starting to switch to it because the flash point and lubricity decrease as the oil becomes contaminated with fuel. This was discovered because a few RS4 owners had engine trouble early on and a few more started having oil analysis done.
BMW calls for Castrol 10w60 "synthetic" for any of their current M cars. You can only get it from BMW and Porsche dealerships in the USA.
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ichibankilla;200340 wrote:
anything to keep the old honda running smoothly past 200k.
d00d...hondas can run on anything you put in them...
it does indeed look like a good product...I'd like to see some dyno proven gains by just changing the oil and nothing else. Also, is there a gear lube within this company just as Royal Purple, Mobil 1, etc.? JW because if it is as good as claimed, I could see a lot of people changing these fluids over as well.
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torbs;200472 wrote:
d00d...hondas can run on anything you put in them...it does indeed look like a good product...I'd like to see some dyno proven gains by just changing the oil and nothing else. Also, is there a gear lube within this company just as Royal Purple, Mobil 1, etc.? JW because if it is as good as claimed, I could see a lot of people changing these fluids over as well.
The only thing about that is torbs, you may not put the same numbers down 2 identical pulls in a row. You would have to find a way to make each pull IDENTICAL(engine temp, room temp, intake temps......)
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I'd probably look for other ways to find 2-3 ihp (internet horsepower) than by dicking around with my motor oil.
To help choose an oil, I'd monitor oil & water temps, as well as doing oil analysis to see if engine wear or other undesirable things appeared to be reduced with that oil.
both of my 20 year old BMWs have factory oil coolers in them, stock
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The design and reasoning behind ENEOS was not to gain HP. That is one of the small benefits of running the best of the best motor oil. I would look more into the lubrication, applications, history, current usage (and whom), and the design differences from any other oil. Once you find the differences, research how the differences may be beneficial to you and your vehicles. I wouldn't continue to focus on the HP gains, but rather look more into increasing the efficiency of your motor, and what that can do for you in all aspects of owning/operating a motor vehicle.
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