Why do people do this?
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94NDTA;201367 wrote:
And if you wanted to make your wagon fast, I would understand and wouldn't care.Like I said, people get different cars for different reasons. My regal I purchased not to be a sports car, but to be a car that I could drive all year round comfortably that wasn't a bore to drive. So what if I spend a little time and money on it to make it faster.
Yeah for sure, I actually think you're regal is cool cuz thats way different than anything else. I'm just saying that the pontiacs are ugly as expletive.
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94NDTA;201334 wrote:
This is the dumbest arguement about cars ever.Apple to oranges,
You are trying to compare specific cars in specific situations that only the car you are biased to.
"Lets compare X car to a Y, in a catagory that favors X car only"
This is beyond stupid, and all of the import nutswingers are closing their ears and not accepting that you can affordably mod another fwd american car.
People buy different cars for different reasons than YOU did.
Bunch of fucking idiots.
Well well, someone needs a tampon.
Yes, it is a dumb arguement but it is the arguement that is being brought up in this thread. I was trying to throw out different types of racing to imply that it had to be all around built for speed, handling, and be able to last. As was said, you could do turbo/tune/suspension on the civic for 2k ish, but in the end it will probably lose in the auto-x because of the turbo as was hinted at by ka-t.
How does reliability, drag racing, and auto-x only favor one type of car. That is a stupid fucking comment.
When did I ever say that I was leaning towards the import winning the competition. I believe I said something along the lines of I don't know which one would win...talk about closing you ears and not being accepting of something.
Yes, people do buy different cars for different reasons, but this thread is about a specific reason, not about driving to school/work/gettin groceries. I've got a 2004 sentra to do that with. This thread is about performance.
And as far as being an idiot, like I said....tampon.
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darkelvis;201428 wrote:
Well well, someone needs a tampon.Yes, it is a dumb arguement but it is the arguement that is being brought up in this thread. I was trying to throw out different types of racing to imply that it had to be all around built for speed, handling, and be able to last. As was said, you could do turbo/tune/suspension on the civic for 2k ish, but in the end it will probably lose in the auto-x because of the turbo as was hinted at by ka-t.
How does reliability, drag racing, and auto-x only favor one type of car. That is a stupid fucking comment.
When did I ever say that I was leaning towards the import winning the competition. I believe I said something along the lines of I don't know which one would win...talk about closing you ears and not being accepting of something.
Yes, people do buy different cars for different reasons, but this thread is about a specific reason, not about driving to school/work/gettin groceries. I've got a 2004 sentra to do that with. This thread is about performance.
And as far as being an idiot, like I said....tampon.
What...if you want to have a car for getting groceries that you want to mod?
Also, what if you rather have a car with a comfortable ride than would ride on rails?
There are specific cars for specific situations.
No tampon neaded anymore.
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Not to get anyones panities in a twist here, this is another one of those never ending arguments, what one person likes is not always what the other likes. For example you may think your girl is hot as hell, someone else may think she is ugly as S*it.
In my case, i needed a car, of all the choices in my price range this was the closest to what i wanted, as for the rims and body kit, those came later, the car was in a hit and run less than a week after i bought it. so i decided to fix it myself, and get the headlights and bumper out of the junk yard and use the insurance money to buy the body kit and rims. all in all i liked it so it really didnt bother me what others thought. :icon_salut: -
People mod these cars because they want to. I want to add some power to my SSEi because I want to, simple as that. You can drive cirles around me if you want, I'll be happy in my shitty handling boat...
www.bonnevilleclub.com
www.intense-racing.com
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The topic was why do people do this not how retarded are these guys for thinking FWD US cars can go fast. There are some damn good reasons to buy one of those cars, the Grand Prix in particular. They ride nice, are super reliable, can fit four or five adults comfortably along with their shit, and still rip off some 14 second passes for pretty cheap. Granted they are not the best the US has to offer in terms of build quality, i.e. lots of plastic on the interior, but at least it has an interior. Every civic I have ever been in has a dash, seats, carpet, and thats it, the shifter comes out of the floor. I think we can all agree that both cars are reliable, and some of the other cars mentioned are pretty good as well, it really comes down to what you want. I will defend the Grand Prix to the end, very nice cars that are decently sporty and cheap as well as reliable. Oh and BTW anyone who thinks a Civic looks better than a Grand Prix needs to have their eyes checked.
> Mitch Hedberg wrote:
> I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.ASE certified parts specialist.
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capitlj;201497 wrote:
The topic was why do people do this not how retarded are these guys for thinking FWD US cars can go fast. There are some damn good reasons to buy one of those cars, the Grand Prix in particular. They ride nice, are super reliable, can fit four or five adults comfortably along with their shit, and still rip off some 14 second passes for pretty cheap. Granted they are not the best the US has to offer in terms of build quality, i.e. lots of plastic on the interior, but at least it has an interior. Every civic I have ever been in has a dash, seats, carpet, and thats it, the shifter comes out of the floor. I think we can all agree that both cars are reliable, and some of the other cars mentioned are pretty good as well, it really comes down to what you want. I will defend the Grand Prix to the end, very nice cars that are decently sporty and cheap as well as reliable. Oh and BTW anyone who thinks a Civic looks better than a Grand Prix needs to have their eyes checked.This might be one of your best posts ever. I actually agree with most of it. I think we can all agree that most hondas are more reliable then most pontiacs, but pontiacs are more roomy and whatnot. And I think civics look way better than grand prixs, but grand prixs aren't hideous compared to many other cars.
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capitlj;201497 wrote:
can fit four or five adults comfortably along with their shit.And a civic cant? This is news to me as I am 6'4" and sit comfortably in both the front and back seats of my car. Drove 1500 miles in the course of 30 hours and I felt as comfortable at the end as when I got into the car. So why does everyone make this argument?? If we all had to haul lots of people around we would buy minivans lol. And for the looks thing who really cares in the end its all personal preference.
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KA-T_240;201509 wrote:
Pontiacs are ok, until you need to replace you IM gaskets. Or start having ABS issues.The tranny in my bonneville started slipping bad at 103k miles, and like 98k miles of that was driven by my dad who was 40+ yrs old. And i was no worse than an average teenager about driving it. Otherwise it ran good, but that tranny is garbage. I have beat the hell out of many hondas with 150k+ miles on them and only had one problem when a D15 got low on oil.
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Silver97;201766 wrote:
How did your honda get low on oil normal engines don't have consumption issues. I've owned hondas and they all burn oil. 3 motors and 3 sets of CV shafts later I sold my honda I think I'd rather own a 4G63....Um, bad valve seals on a motor with 190k miles on it that was beat to hell. I drove the shit out of it waiting for it to blow and rarely checked the oil.
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Valve seals did it burn a quart every 500 miles like my motor with just over 100k? or how about those LS rod bolts. I'm not try to start shit but all engines have a downfall. Nothing is perfect, it's true that some maybe better than others but at some point there is a weak link in every piece of machinery.
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Never seen anyone have a problem with ls rod bolts...unless someone overrevved the shit outa them or something...As for cv shafts...what did u replace them with, I broke an Autozone one in 2 months with a pathetic turd motor, it was the shitty axles they have not the car itself. I havent seen many cars that can take the abuse hondas can...especially a dsm, lol.
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BlackEJ8;201553 wrote:
And a civic cant? This is news to me as I am 6'4" and sit comfortably in both the front and back seats of my car. .Dude you are fucking nuts.....
My mom drives a 96 dx 5speed 2dr civic and when my family has to crawl into that thing to go anywhere it looks like the circus came to town.............my dad is 6'4" 225lbs and if there is anyway you think he sits with any comfort in that thing in the front, god forbid the back you are nuts
shit i am only 6'2" 155lbs and i cant sit up straight in the back of that thing
She loves her Honda though.................... and for oil consumption, that has 200k on it and it doesnt use a measurable amount at all, D16y8
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zbrown;201885 wrote:
Dude you are fucking nuts.....
Exactly what I was going to say. I drove my sister-in-laws mom's car, a newer accord four door, at my brother's wedding and I could barely get the seat to go back far enough for my legs to clear the steering wheel. And that was an accord, arent they supposed to be bigger? As far as situations where you have to fit people in your car, it comes up quite a bit if you have friends.
> Mitch Hedberg wrote:
> I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.ASE certified parts specialist.
2004 Impala LS 3.8 -
Im not gonna claim that civics have a lot of room, they aren't meant to but i could care less. Anyways, if you can't fit in a newer accord, that isn't the car makers fault. I have owned tons of hondas and never had a problem fitting and im 6'3", in fact i usually slide my seat forward a little bit cuz of personal preference and to be closer to the wheel. My dad is 6'6" and he rode in the passenger seat comfortably and was impressed how much room there was.
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I dont have chicken legs tho thats the problem, its not my ass or my gut at all but these tree trunks that have to support my fat ass. I could get in and out without too much trouble if the damn steering wheel wasnt so close to the seat. I have yet to come across a car I could not get into and drive its just the hassle of doing so I want to avoid. With something a little bigger like a GP its not a problem at all.
> Mitch Hedberg wrote:
> I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.ASE certified parts specialist.
2004 Impala LS 3.8 -
capitlj;202186 wrote:
I dont have chicken legs tho thats the problem, its not my ass or my gut at all but these tree trunks that have to support my fat ass. I could get in and out without too much trouble if the damn steering wheel wasnt so close to the seat. I have yet to come across a car I could not get into and drive its just the hassle of doing so I want to avoid. With something a little bigger like a GP its not a problem at all.So you have bad genes...
Not my fault, go to the gym and Learn to live a healthier lifestlye.
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