fastest all-motor car in the F/M area

[out there]

well, i'm just speculating. i've read on honda-tech that b-series have no problems with 75 stock, and some have used 150 on healthy engines with basic upgrades

[PSI2HI]

Be pretty sad if he only went mid 13's on a 100-150 shot. Be pretty funny though to see all the parts fly if he did spray 150 though, i say go for it!! Just let me know so i can come watch the carnage.

My old Teg(LS) went 13.0@104 w/ intake, catback and a 65 shot, thats it.

[out there]

i think he should start small before jumping into 150, but i do agree that it would be sad if he only managed mid-13 with 100+. he'll just have to experiment for the best time to use it, and learn to launch with good tires

[Flowcus]

integra_gsr98 wrote:
Then do it.

Are you some kind of know it all? I know what my car is capable of and you dont think so or something? Like tufte said his integra LS did a 13 flat with intake cat-back and a 65 shot... I have a long first gear and also full interior trim. There is another SVT with a cat-back, intake, and exhaust cam gear with a 75 shot running a 13.3

[treimche]

Flowcus wrote:
Are you some kind of know it all? I know what my car is capable of and you dont think so or something? Like tufte said his integra LS did a 13 flat with intake cat-back and a 65 shot... I have a long first gear and also full interior trim. There is another SVT with a cat-back, intake, and exhaust cam gear with a 75 shot running a 13.3

That doesn't mean YOU will be able to do that. I'd say run the times then post the numbers, not the other way around.

[Flowcus]

Sure it doesnt, but this guy was on stock tires, stock clutch... If I do ever decide to go with nitrous I wouldnt have stock tires or a stock clutch. The stock clutch is great but is known for fast wear, stock tires arent really geared towards the 1/4 more towards auto-xing. And im sure with minor practice those times would be easily attainable.

[btleier]

Don't mean to be an ass, but just like you're saying IF you went nitrous then you WOULD have an aftermarket clutch, and different tires. It's all hearsay until you own the stuff and do it.

So get it done, and we can all go to the track next year, and show each other what we can do.

[bluejays]

out there wrote:
n2o is just a way to increase the oxygen to the engine and cool the intake temps. i'd check on honda-tech for back-up, but i think he would have no problems running 100-150 with good intake and exhaust. couple that with good tires and weight reduction... should get him to mid-low 13s

that really depends on the compression his running also doesn't it? if he runs a real high compression doesn't that make larger shots of nice MORE dangerous?

[Guest]

if i shot rice juice it isnt all motor no is it

[integra_gsr98]

Flowcus wrote:
Are you some kind of know it all? I know what my car is capable of and you dont think so or something? Like tufte said his integra LS did a 13 flat with intake cat-back and a 65 shot... I have a long first gear and also full interior trim. There is another SVT with a cat-back, intake, and exhaust cam gear with a 75 shot running a 13.3

No I've been around this game for a lot longer though, and am honestly tired of everyone saying they're gonna do this, they're gonna do that, and my car is gonna run this, and my car is gonna run that. Put some parts on it, tune the fucker, and get it to the track. Quit sayin you're gonna run 13s, 12s, 11s, 10s, 9s, 8s, and dont do anything about it. Show up and race.

Until then dont make "what if" comparisons. There are a few other factors also as to why tuftes integra went 13 flat and troys hatch went 13.3. Power to weight ratio, trans gearing, drivers, and traction. Just because they went 13.0 and 13.3 on 50 and 65 shots doesn't mean you can.

[Guest]

very true gsr, very true.

[out there]

bluejays wrote:
that really depends on the compression his running also doesn't it? if he runs a real high compression doesn't that make larger shots of nice MORE dangerous?
it's all in how the parts are tuned together, there are guys on honda-tech that run 11+ compression with 100+ n2o.

spoolude wrote:
if i shot rice juice it isnt all motor no is it
you're not using forced induction, that's what it means

[Guest]

Your not going to get anywhere NEAR 250-275whp. Mark my words - with a built H22 and ANY local tuner (yep, I'm even talking about Shane from Elite) - you will MAX at 210whp..

Just watch..

Your going to spend a good 5-6 grand to build a motor that would make the same power as your H22 with 4psi on it..

I know all motor is different - but there isnt a tuner close to you and there is no one with REAL experience building a NA Honda motor.. (and dont quote some stupid shit Sturdevants etc.. A motor is not a motor...)

[out there]

tim and i plan to take his to a good tuner when the time comes. because it's still so far away, i've got plenty of time to research

[Guest]

out there wrote:
tim and i plan to take his to a good tuner when the time comes. because it's still so far away, i've got plenty of time to research

Tell me a "good tuner" that can put a tune on a 250whp all motor car that is within 500 miles of here..

Closest person I would even CLOSE to trust is Super Dave from the Whip Factory in Chicago but I bet my pennies that neither of you haev even heard of him..

Shane from Elite is a joke compared to real tuners.. He can put a decent tune on mid-ranged turbo cars - but so can I and a handful of Fargo guys (Dave H, Matt F)..

[Guest]

Oh yeah --

And just to add - my TRUE opinion is that NONE of this will really happen and he'll stick with bolt ons - maybe spray a 75 shot on it and bust into the low 14s..

Talk is talk like GSR said..

[PSI2HI]

integra_gsr98 wrote:
No I've been around this game for a lot longer though, and am honestly tired of everyone saying they're gonna do this, they're gonna do that, and my car is gonna run this, and my car is gonna run that. Put some parts on it, tune the fucker, and get it to the track. Quit sayin you're gonna run 13s, 12s, 11s, 10s, 9s, 8s, and dont do anything about it. Show up and race.

Until then dont make "what if" comparisons. There are a few other factors also as to why tuftes integra went 13 flat and troys hatch went 13.3. Power to weight ratio, trans gearing, drivers, and traction. Just because they went 13.0 and 13.3 on 50 and 65 shots doesn't mean you can.

Yeah, your right, i had the heavier car w/ less power from the get go (B18a vs B18b). Troy you know your Ebay header made all the diff too, haha. But nah those cars were fun and they refused to die. If i still had it, it woulda got a hundred shot, some cams and a B16 trans and went for an 11.

But yeah i thought you said you dont plan to build a serious race car so why even bother really starting anything serious in this car if you just want a JDM show car? IF you want something faster its gonna have to be in a diff chassis. If not juszt stick w/ what you got and spray a small shot on it and get the 14 you want.

[eg6_vx]

So far i have ran 14.3 in my 94 civic hatch with a stock gsr motor. That was with a 2.4 60 foot on shitty street tires. Hopefully i can get the rest of the crap i need to to build my new motor and start showing people that all motor cars can be quick too

[My NOva]

eg6_vx wrote:
So far i have ran 14.3 in my 94 civic hatch with a stock gsr motor. That was with a 2.4 60 foot on shitty street tires. Hopefully i can get the rest of the crap i need to to build my new motor and start showing people that all motor cars can be quick too
hey old muscle cars are all motor

[Guest]

I think they said 4 cylinder in one of the posts......

Now back to on topic pls