fastest all-motor car in the F/M area

[out there]

well, if he uses n2o, shouldn't be too hard

[Flowcus]

I dont think nitrous can be considered on an all motor car.... can it? If so then shit 13.8 shouldnt be hard to catch. Basic bolt ons and a 75 shot should shoot your lude to low 13's.

[out there]

n2o is just a way to increase the oxygen to the engine and cool the intake temps. i'd check on honda-tech for back-up, but i think he would have no problems running 100-150 with good intake and exhaust. couple that with good tires and weight reduction... should get him to mid-low 13s

[integra_gsr98]

Fastest all motor car was out of Bismarck about two years ago... 13.0s in a civic hatch.

[Flowcus]

Eww only low to mid 13's on a 100 shot? Basic minor bolt ons on my fuckus... cat-back, intake, cam gears... little mods and a 75shot show mid to low 13's.

[integra_gsr98]

Then do it.

[out there]

well, i'm just speculating. i've read on honda-tech that b-series have no problems with 75 stock, and some have used 150 on healthy engines with basic upgrades

[PSI2HI]

Be pretty sad if he only went mid 13's on a 100-150 shot. Be pretty funny though to see all the parts fly if he did spray 150 though, i say go for it!! Just let me know so i can come watch the carnage.

My old Teg(LS) went 13.0@104 w/ intake, catback and a 65 shot, thats it.

[out there]

i think he should start small before jumping into 150, but i do agree that it would be sad if he only managed mid-13 with 100+. he'll just have to experiment for the best time to use it, and learn to launch with good tires

[Flowcus]

integra_gsr98 wrote:
Then do it.

Are you some kind of know it all? I know what my car is capable of and you dont think so or something? Like tufte said his integra LS did a 13 flat with intake cat-back and a 65 shot... I have a long first gear and also full interior trim. There is another SVT with a cat-back, intake, and exhaust cam gear with a 75 shot running a 13.3

[treimche]

Flowcus wrote:
Are you some kind of know it all? I know what my car is capable of and you dont think so or something? Like tufte said his integra LS did a 13 flat with intake cat-back and a 65 shot... I have a long first gear and also full interior trim. There is another SVT with a cat-back, intake, and exhaust cam gear with a 75 shot running a 13.3

That doesn't mean YOU will be able to do that. I'd say run the times then post the numbers, not the other way around.

[Flowcus]

Sure it doesnt, but this guy was on stock tires, stock clutch... If I do ever decide to go with nitrous I wouldnt have stock tires or a stock clutch. The stock clutch is great but is known for fast wear, stock tires arent really geared towards the 1/4 more towards auto-xing. And im sure with minor practice those times would be easily attainable.

[btleier]

Don't mean to be an ass, but just like you're saying IF you went nitrous then you WOULD have an aftermarket clutch, and different tires. It's all hearsay until you own the stuff and do it.

So get it done, and we can all go to the track next year, and show each other what we can do.

[bluejays]

out there wrote:
n2o is just a way to increase the oxygen to the engine and cool the intake temps. i'd check on honda-tech for back-up, but i think he would have no problems running 100-150 with good intake and exhaust. couple that with good tires and weight reduction... should get him to mid-low 13s

that really depends on the compression his running also doesn't it? if he runs a real high compression doesn't that make larger shots of nice MORE dangerous?

[Guest]

if i shot rice juice it isnt all motor no is it

[integra_gsr98]

Flowcus wrote:
Are you some kind of know it all? I know what my car is capable of and you dont think so or something? Like tufte said his integra LS did a 13 flat with intake cat-back and a 65 shot... I have a long first gear and also full interior trim. There is another SVT with a cat-back, intake, and exhaust cam gear with a 75 shot running a 13.3

No I've been around this game for a lot longer though, and am honestly tired of everyone saying they're gonna do this, they're gonna do that, and my car is gonna run this, and my car is gonna run that. Put some parts on it, tune the fucker, and get it to the track. Quit sayin you're gonna run 13s, 12s, 11s, 10s, 9s, 8s, and dont do anything about it. Show up and race.

Until then dont make "what if" comparisons. There are a few other factors also as to why tuftes integra went 13 flat and troys hatch went 13.3. Power to weight ratio, trans gearing, drivers, and traction. Just because they went 13.0 and 13.3 on 50 and 65 shots doesn't mean you can.

[Guest]

very true gsr, very true.

[out there]

bluejays wrote:
that really depends on the compression his running also doesn't it? if he runs a real high compression doesn't that make larger shots of nice MORE dangerous?
it's all in how the parts are tuned together, there are guys on honda-tech that run 11+ compression with 100+ n2o.

spoolude wrote:
if i shot rice juice it isnt all motor no is it
you're not using forced induction, that's what it means

[Guest]

Your not going to get anywhere NEAR 250-275whp. Mark my words - with a built H22 and ANY local tuner (yep, I'm even talking about Shane from Elite) - you will MAX at 210whp..

Just watch..

Your going to spend a good 5-6 grand to build a motor that would make the same power as your H22 with 4psi on it..

I know all motor is different - but there isnt a tuner close to you and there is no one with REAL experience building a NA Honda motor.. (and dont quote some stupid shit Sturdevants etc.. A motor is not a motor...)

[out there]

tim and i plan to take his to a good tuner when the time comes. because it's still so far away, i've got plenty of time to research