Displacement
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The more cubic inches your engine has the more potential it has to build power. Its simple physics, you cant cram as much air and fuel into a 1.6 liter container as you can into a 5.7 liter one. No matter how much compressed air (read forced induction) you put in it won't balance. Sure a turbo 1.6 might make more power than a stock 350, this is where the technology comes in, due to the design of the heads, the cam profiles, flow rates of both the intake and exhaust etc. All of that factors in but if you make the 350 as efficient as the 1.6 it will make far and away more power. I would think that would be obvious to anyone when you look at what is on a race track, just about anywhere, and the fastest cars are using engine technology that has its roots in the 1950's, possibly even farther back. You can call out all the things that have changed with engines in the last five decades, but look at what has not changed.
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Colin;212778 wrote:
I agree so much, that I am doing the "more cylinders" mod.Wasn't there a video posted quite some time ago of some dumb ass saying he was going to do that to his evo and go 300 mph or something like that?
Sterling Archer: Oh my god! You killed a hooker!
Cyril Figgis: Call girl!
Sterling Archer: No Cyril! When they're dead they're just hookers!
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Parker;212716 wrote:
ok... when your done with your lil 4.8 build.... lets line them up.... yours boosted and mine on spray.... we'll see how it goes....fully forged vs stock longblock.......... that is apples to oranges if anything
lol whats the point....... even just 600 wheel in these cars with an auto is a solid 9 second car
the smaller cube LSx's have done that on stock long blocks for sustained periods with out popping
cant we just be friends now?? how about if i change my avatar to something more fitting??
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ichibankilla;212841 wrote:
Wasn't there a video posted quite some time ago of some dumb ass saying he was going to do that to his evo and go 300 mph or something like that?yep, some walmart employee talking about his non-existent evo. Thats why I think my swap is funny. "I'm gonna add 2 cylinders" lol
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Im pretty sure that everyone knows that all things equal, a larger displacement can make more power......but i really think only the ppl who have something to back it up against the imports should be arguing how much better their V8s are. Just like Imports shouldn't be arguing how much better they are unless they can hold there own.....Just my opinion on the matter.
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weshole;212621 wrote:
Tell that to a Ferarri who only uses V8's and V12's. Or Bugatti, Bently, etc. that uses big engines WITH turbos.Hmmm...if I'm not mistaking there's a certain 3.0L I-6 that can put out more power in stock longblock form than all of those cars make...ask Dave, I'm sure he can assist you with what the engine code is.
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torbs;212896 wrote:
Hmmm...if I'm not mistaking there's a certain 3.0L I-6 that can put out more power in stock longblock form than all of those cars make...ask Dave, I'm sure he can assist you with what the engine code is.You are comparing apples to oranges... If someone used a ferrari motor in a drag car, with the time and money daves motor has into It, im sure it could handle just as much power...
BTW, his long block is definitly not stock.Daves car makes power because of power adders, not because of the motor...
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Joel;212901 wrote:
You are comparing apples to oranges... If someone used a ferrari motor in a drag car, with the time and money daves motor has into It, im sure it could handle just as much power...
BTW, his long block is definitly not stock.Daves car makes power because of power adders, not because of the motor...
Whether his is stock or not, doesn't matter...stock 2jz-gte longblocks have made over 1000hp on several occasions...hell the stock 2jz-ge with a thick hg in stock longblock form can hold 600-650hp (notice i've been saying stock longblock...reading > Joel)
So if daves car makes power bc of "power adders" and not because of the motor, then i should be able to make 1000hp with a d16, afterall, the motor doesn't have anyhting to do with it.:icon_salut:
Also, I'm sure Dave has less $$$ put into his car when it's finished than a new Ferrari costs...
Summary: Everything is the opposite of what you said...it was a good attempt tho
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zbrown;212848 wrote:
fully forged vs stock longblock.......... that is apples to oranges if anythinglol whats the point....... even just 600 wheel in these cars with an auto is a solid 9 second car
the smaller cube LSx's have done that on stock long blocks for sustained periods with out popping
cant we just be friends now?? how about if i change my avatar to something more fitting??
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the way i see it. as long as its fast who gives a fuck.
yeah sure the rumble of a cammed v8 is pretty sweet
but so is the high revingness of a built 4cyl.
but at the end of the day, its who makes it down the end of the track fastest is all that mattersoh btw my 3406 cat or n14 cummins or 60 series detroit > your 350 > your d16blablab16blabla honda
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beachbum_jon;212940 wrote:
the way i see it. as long as its fast who gives a fuck.yeah sure the rumble of a cammed v8 is pretty sweet
but so is the high revingness of a built 4cyl.
but at the end of the day, its who makes it down the end of the track fastest is all that mattersoh btw my 3406 cat or n14 cummins or 60 series detroit > your 350 > your d16blablab16blabla honda
Cant we all just get along!!!
haha, anyways
Torbs, shut up, wow another supra making over 1000 hp. Wooohooo! (Although an impresive accomplishment by the owner). This is what we are talking about when we describe a person who thinks hands down one motor is better than all the others. With nearly any motor the possibilities are endless
Another thing, Fuck supercars.
and last but not least, "YOU CAN ADD APPLES TO ORANGES IF YOUR UNIT OF MEASURE IS FRUIT"
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^^what else is there?
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torbs;212904 wrote:
Also, I'm sure Dave has less $$$ put into his car when it's finished than a new Ferrari costs...Dave, being the master of the good deal that he is, is probably getting paid to build his car...not because he's sponsored (he's not...well no MAJOR sponsors) but because he is DaveH and is a God on SupraForums so people sacrifice parts to the NA-T God in hopes that he will grace them with his knowledge. It's true.
(I should start a wikipedia page about this so i'd have a reference to point to.)
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