Displacement
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Joel;212901 wrote:
You are comparing apples to oranges... If someone used a ferrari motor in a drag car, with the time and money daves motor has into It, im sure it could handle just as much power...
BTW, his long block is definitly not stock.Daves car makes power because of power adders, not because of the motor...
Whether his is stock or not, doesn't matter...stock 2jz-gte longblocks have made over 1000hp on several occasions...hell the stock 2jz-ge with a thick hg in stock longblock form can hold 600-650hp (notice i've been saying stock longblock...reading > Joel)
So if daves car makes power bc of "power adders" and not because of the motor, then i should be able to make 1000hp with a d16, afterall, the motor doesn't have anyhting to do with it.:icon_salut:
Also, I'm sure Dave has less $$$ put into his car when it's finished than a new Ferrari costs...
Summary: Everything is the opposite of what you said...it was a good attempt tho
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zbrown;212848 wrote:
fully forged vs stock longblock.......... that is apples to oranges if anythinglol whats the point....... even just 600 wheel in these cars with an auto is a solid 9 second car
the smaller cube LSx's have done that on stock long blocks for sustained periods with out popping
cant we just be friends now?? how about if i change my avatar to something more fitting??
ok... if you change you avatar and sig.... we can be friends -
the way i see it. as long as its fast who gives a fuck.
yeah sure the rumble of a cammed v8 is pretty sweet
but so is the high revingness of a built 4cyl.
but at the end of the day, its who makes it down the end of the track fastest is all that mattersoh btw my 3406 cat or n14 cummins or 60 series detroit > your 350 > your d16blablab16blabla honda
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beachbum_jon;212940 wrote:
the way i see it. as long as its fast who gives a fuck.yeah sure the rumble of a cammed v8 is pretty sweet
but so is the high revingness of a built 4cyl.
but at the end of the day, its who makes it down the end of the track fastest is all that mattersoh btw my 3406 cat or n14 cummins or 60 series detroit > your 350 > your d16blablab16blabla honda
Cant we all just get along!!!
haha, anyways
Torbs, shut up, wow another supra making over 1000 hp. Wooohooo! (Although an impresive accomplishment by the owner). This is what we are talking about when we describe a person who thinks hands down one motor is better than all the others. With nearly any motor the possibilities are endless
Another thing, Fuck supercars.
and last but not least, "YOU CAN ADD APPLES TO ORANGES IF YOUR UNIT OF MEASURE IS FRUIT"
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^^what else is there?
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torbs;212904 wrote:
Also, I'm sure Dave has less $$$ put into his car when it's finished than a new Ferrari costs...Dave, being the master of the good deal that he is, is probably getting paid to build his car...not because he's sponsored (he's not...well no MAJOR sponsors) but because he is DaveH and is a God on SupraForums so people sacrifice parts to the NA-T God in hopes that he will grace them with his knowledge. It's true.
(I should start a wikipedia page about this so i'd have a reference to point to.)
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id still rather have any of the above motors that i posted than any 4cyl honda, but thats just my opinion. and everyone is entitled to their own opinion and it shouldnt really matter wha anyone else thinks about your setup, mainly because its YOUR setup and not theirs.
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This thread is pointless
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I am Chuck Norris after all....
FWIW, the engine in the red car was stock as was the engine in Matts Probe the last couple years. The engine in my black car has aftermarket rods and pistons, as does the engine Matt is building for this year.
DaveH
'94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph -
Raider;213038 wrote:
I personally perfer more displacement myself....I like the instant tq...nothing like having 300+ft/tq by 2500rpmscept a cummins making 600 by 2k???
speaking of jet/gas turbine engines........... I may way off base but i think i remember reading this somewhere
Don't they make insane ##'s for TO?? I mean their HP # is dwarfed by the TO #??
thought so anyway
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If there is no replacement for displacement, how do things like this happen:
1988 Camaro RS. 5.0 L, 170 hp
1989 CRX SiR - 1.6 L, 160 hp
One year apart. 3.4 L. 10 hp.
You're right. No replacement for displacement.
And I would've gone further back in time but I had no resources for those old 1920's-30's v12's that made like 50 hp.
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KidSupreme;213127 wrote:
If there is no replacement for displacement, how do things like this happen:1988 Camaro RS. 5.0 L, 170 hp
1989 CRX SiR - 1.6 L, 160 hp
One year apart. 3.4 L. 10 hp.
You're right. No replacement for displacement.
And I would've gone further back in time but I had no resources for those old 1920's-30's v12's that made like 50 hp.
1988 Camaro RS. V-8 5.0L (305CI) 4 Barrel Carb 170HP@4400 and 250Ft/lbs@2800
1989 crx SiR - 112 @ 7100
Wow only 1 year apart 3.4 L 138 Ft/lbs
No replacement for displacement. and BTW, next time you make a comparison between two vehicles you could probably use the top package for BOTH vehicles. You chose the lowest 5.0l motor option that gm offered. Lets try this comparison again evenly.
Low Package Comparison:
1988 Camaro RS. 5.0 L, 170 hp 250 ft/lbs1989 crx sohc 8 valve - 62hp, 90ft/lbs
High package comparison:
1988 Camaro Z28 5.0L, 220hp 290 ft/lbs1989 CRX SiR - 1.6 L, 160 hp
Displacement ftw, ....again :owned:
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