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  • MisterCMKM Offline
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    MisterCMK
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    I found this today and thought it was kind of interesting.

    The Proper use of a Torque Wrench

    Many times I have heard people complain that these come loose (Control arms are an example). I ask if they torqued to factory specs and I always get the "Yes I did..", then I ask if they adjusted for the preload (frictional drag torque) on the nut. "Huh???" There torque is inevitably lower than factory because they forgot this point.

    Stated torque measurements factor in the frictional force of clean parts, so make certain that everything is clean, and has no burrs. Measuring for Pre-load (frictional drag torque) is fairly easy in theory. The textbook way assumes that you are screwing the nut onto a stationary bolt or thread; we all know this doesn't work, since our stuff is not stationary. Here is the easiest way to do it. Jam the bolt head with a wrench against something so that it won't move. Don't hold it in your hand, since you will have some give there, and may get an inaccurate measurement. Take the nut and screw it on until it stops (hand tight), then take the torque wrench and turn the nut. Start with the lowest setting and work your way up if you are using a micrometer torque, if you are using a beam style, just watch the pointer, the point at which the nut turns is the pre-load (frictional drag torque). You then just add this to the torque you want to go to. i.e. 10ft/lb pre-load (frictional drag torque) + 100ft/lb torque setting = 110ft/lb setting on the torque wrench. There is another pre-load computation for bolts based upon tension/torsion/bolt stretch/ friction/ etc... I really don't want to get into that side, since it really doesn't have a purpose in our application. For those of us with torque wrenches, here is something that I forget to do also. Something to keep in mind when we use them.

    Preloading a torque wrench is an important to the overall accuracy. It must be performed each time the torque wrench is used after periods of non-use or whenever torque direction is changed. There are several reasons for preloading your torque wrench. First, it will set internal components so that when force is applied, torque begins immediately with no internal settling. Second, it distributes lubrication to moving internal parts.

    How to do it:

    1. Set torque wrench between 50 percent and 100 percent of full scale.
    2. Mount torque drive in a stationary fixture (i.e. socket welded to bench, vise).
    3. Exercise the torque wrench three to five times in the direction you will be verifying.
    4. Perform torque measurement.

    Remember to store torque wrenches (click-type) in the low setting. Otherwise calibration will be needed at shorter intervals. You should have your torque wrenches calibrated yearly for accuracy, but it can be costly, so most of us don't do it. I admit that mine are not any longer.

    FASTER THAN DUBBSY

    > thrash;315544 wrote:
    > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
    >
    > Ford is back :)

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    • z31Z Offline
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      z31
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      :deal: Buy a SnapOn and dissregaurd all that bullshit. :icon_bigsmurf:

      86 Nissan 300zx 12.43 @ 114 Top End Dragways

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      • ParkerP Offline
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        Parker
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        z31;214332 wrote:
        :deal: Buy a SnapOn and dissregaurd all that bullshit. :icon_bigsmurf:
        ummmm... wrong....

        10 Jeep
        10 F450
        08 F250
        05 F350
        86 rx7
        70 F100
        63 Olds

        > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
        > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
        > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
        > You are right Parker.

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        • R Offline
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          revolutionz_s13
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          snap on will recalibrate their torque wrenchs for free...at least up here they do

          > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
          > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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          • K Offline
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            KA-T_240
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            revolutionz_s13;214345 wrote:
            snap on will recalibrate their torque wrenchs for free...at least up here they do

            ^Pretty sure they do down here also. There is probably a reason why every torque wrench at our shop and in our person tools is snap on.

            PM me for:
            Sandblasting(I use glass beads)
            Diesel repairs or performance products.

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            • ParkerP Offline
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              Parker
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              in order for a torque wrench to be accurate, it needs to be clicked 3-4 times.... i know at catapiler they have a bench with a bunch of welded down nuts, so people can go over there and click their torque wrench a couple times before they use it...

              10 Jeep
              10 F450
              08 F250
              05 F350
              86 rx7
              70 F100
              63 Olds

              > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
              > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
              > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
              > You are right Parker.

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              • MisterCMKM Offline
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                MisterCMK
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Perhaps I shall click my torque wrench 6 times tomorrow afternoon.

                Perhaps.

                FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                > thrash;315544 wrote:
                > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                >
                > Ford is back :)

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                  zbrown
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                  Parker;214359 wrote:
                  in order for a torque wrench to be accurate, it needs to be clicked 3-4 times.... i know at catapiler they have a bench with a bunch of welded down nuts, so people can go over there and click their torque wrench a couple times before they use it...

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                  pics or BS............

                  😉

                  rx7-8.89@157mph
                  12v dodge, twins

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                  • ParkerP Offline
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                    Parker
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                    💣

                    10 Jeep
                    10 F450
                    08 F250
                    05 F350
                    86 rx7
                    70 F100
                    63 Olds

                    > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                    > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                    > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                    > You are right Parker.

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                    • MisterCMKM Offline
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                      MisterCMK
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      z31;214332 wrote:
                      :deal: Buy a SnapOn and dissregaurd all that bullshit. :icon_bigsmurf:

                      Wrong.

                      FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                      > thrash;315544 wrote:
                      > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                      >
                      > Ford is back :)

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                      • MisterCMKM Offline
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                        MisterCMK
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        KA-T_240;214346 wrote:
                        ^Pretty sure they do down here also. There is probably a reason why every torque wrench at our shop and in our person tools is snap on.

                        Nevermind the fact that you guys probably have a snap on truck and lines of credit.

                        FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                        > thrash;315544 wrote:
                        > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                        >
                        > Ford is back :)

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