Non-Americans and BMWs

[99civic]

see anel has 3 jobs and can only afford an ugly shitstang.......no offence to the ones with the
v8's. so these guys have to be doing something else. 90% of their cars are salvaged anyway

[thrash]

I don't have a problem with anyone working 3 jobs in leiu of being on some sort of public aid. If they're on public aid and working 3 jobs and then buying a nice car, that's still better then them not working 3 jobs.

The people who do nothing and just collect money are the lowest rung. People that game the system and collect while working are better because at least they are injecting value into the economy.

[bubba]

I wish some other government would blow up my shit then let me mooch off of them...

[GarageAlchemist]

I worked with a bosnian named Bishlaga for a few years at a construction job. He said that the bosnians that lived in the big apt complexes on 32nd ave ran a sort of communal thing with their income. They pooled the money from all the families, paid all the bills, then every month one of them got something huge, the next month it was someone elses turn. Everyone is taken care of, and in the long run everyone gets their "toy". He said this was also helped out by tax exeptions.

[Guest]

Taking the Bosnian (obvious reference by the OP) defense stance here. Many of the "non-americans" you speak of are actually Americans (naturalized, or other)...or at least legal aliens here on J5 visa's. Some of the bosnians that I have talked with have parents who are here as Doctor's or other healthcare professionals. These people can afford BMW's for themselves or their kids. Now don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people here who live off the system (White/Bosnian/Indian/Black/Chinese/etc...) but to categorize all of them as free-loaders is a misconception

[Goodnbuzzd]

JN210;219022 wrote:
actually....the one with the black EVO is dating my cousin...honestly I dont have a problem with them.....The red EVO guy (both their names are "Aldin") is the one who is dreaming about a ferrari and I dont know how he lives.....

Buying/Owning a Ferrari is one thing, (Not saying it is easy to do or cheap) maintaining it is quite another. A few years ago i stopped in a shop in Moorhead to get my------> BMW :)<-------- fixed, and there was a Ferrari 328 gtb in there. Talking to the tech, i was informed that these cars need constant maintanance to operate correctly, he mentioned that you can put upwards of 5 to 6 thousand dollars into maintanance every 15000 to 20000 miles, especially since tolerances are so tight, one example is no head gaskets due to tight tolerances in machining!!! So if you can buy one, Great! But, Can you afford to maintain it????

[ruthless351]

99civic;219033 wrote:
see anel has 3 jobs and can only afford an ugly shitstang.......no offence to the ones with the
v8's. so these guys have to be doing something else. 90% of their cars are salvaged anyway

Its not that he cant afford anything else its personal taste. Its what he likes. So lay off man............ come on now lets stay away from bashing what everyone drives.

[MisterCMK]

Goodnbuzzd;219212 wrote:
Buying/Owning a Ferrari is one thing, (Not saying it is easy to do or cheap) maintaining it is quite another. A few years ago i stopped in a shop in Moorhead to get my------> BMW :)<-------- fixed, and there was a Ferrari 328 gtb in there. Talking to the tech, i was informed that these cars need constant maintanance to operate correctly, he mentioned that you can put upwards of 5 to 6 thousand dollars into maintanance every 15000 to 20000 miles, especially since tolerances are so tight, one example is no head gaskets due to tight tolerances in machining!!! So if you can buy one, Great! But, Can you afford to maintain it????

I cann bullshit on that one. What are they doing every 15-20k miles that costs 5k? No headgaskets? Again, I call bullshit.

[Guest]

proof that they made/make head gaskets for the 328 Ferrari

http://www.rpmmachine.com/cometic-gaskets-austin-acura.shtml

[harm]

MisterCMK;219253 wrote:
I cann bullshit on that one.

dude, you prove everyday that you can bullshit on anything. post whore!

ah..kidding. kind of. :icon_salut:

[Jim]

I looked in to what it costs to maintain them, they certainly are expensive, most people don't really put any miles on them...

with the F1 transmissions they go through clutchs frequently if people use the "automatic" mode becuase it slips it everywhere, the other common thing is belt replacement...

Here's what forbes.com says "Engine oil for the Enzo costs $72 per quart, and routine, 3,000-mile tune-ups of Ferraris can costs thousands of dollars due to all of that race car technology."

and from the Ferrari boards:

"The main costs you have to worry about are the major services (15K,30K miles or every 3 years) because of the complexity of the work requiring hours since it is an engine out service. Depending on which shop you bring it to, either an independent or an official Ferrari dealer, this would cost around $6-8K in the USA. "

[Goodnbuzzd]

MisterCMK;219253 wrote:
I cann bullshit on that one. What are they doing every 15-20k miles that costs 5k? No headgaskets? Again, I call bullshit.

You can call bullshit all you want, im only repeating what i have been told by someone who repairs them. As for proof head gaskets are made, think about it!, if the heads warp or whatever after time, obvyously manufacturing gaskets will solve having to buy new heads, or having to have some expensive machine work.

[Jim]

Goodnbuzzd;219281 wrote:
You can call bullshit all you want, im only repeating what i have been told by someone who repairs them. As for proof head gaskets are made, think about it!, if the heads warp or whatever after time, obvyously manufacturing gaskets will solve having to buy new heads, or having to have some expensive machine work.

If there wasn't a headgasket from the factory, a Ferrari dealer wouldn't put one in to "solve" the problem, they'd replace the head.

I'm guessing they have a headgasket though...

[Goodnbuzzd]

Jim;219282 wrote:
If there wasn't a headgasket from the factory, a Ferrari dealer wouldn't put one in to "solve" the problem, they'd replace the head.

I'm guessing they have a headgasket though...

I will agree with you on that jim, i did some reading on the net, from what i understand is that they dont use gaskets in the heads like in a chevy or ford, they use like ring and seat gaskets (as far as i can see). as i have said, i was only repeating what i was told by a mechanic that works on them, as i have never owned one. but i will stick with maintenance being very expensive, as im sure jim can vouch for (owning a bimmer and a mercedes), even my mercedes is not cheap to maintain, even when i do the repairs myself!!!!

[ichibankilla]

KidSupreme;218949 wrote:
They also really like Mercedes too.

Scrap metal is quite profitable.
Plus your priorities have to be in the right place I guess. shrug

No shit, during clean up days I think I saw one, maybe two, BBQ grills that actually still had the lids on them and damn near every DVD, VCR, TV, and Stereo we came across that looked half ass decent had the cord snipped off of it. Apparently cord snipping is quite a lucrative business.

[Guest]

tjamz;219158 wrote:
Taking the Bosnian (obvious reference by the OP) defense stance here. Many of the "non-americans" you speak of are actually Americans (naturalized, or other)...or at least legal aliens here on J5 visa's. Some of the bosnians that I have talked with have parents who are here as Doctor's or other healthcare professionals. These people can afford BMW's for themselves or their kids. Now don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people here who live off the system (White/Bosnian/Indian/Black/Chinese/etc...) but to categorize all of them as free-loaders is a misconception

Nowhere did I mention Bosnians or free-loaders. Please refrain from putting words in my mouth.