2008 Minnesota Vikings thread
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drift86;234936 wrote:
Ya fuck tjack. One last chance to score but no he decided to play for greenbay lol minnesota sucks againEh, it may not actually be his fault...Shiancoe kind of looked like he held up on the route he was supposed to run. And ultimately if that is the case, then atleast Jackson is anticipating where his receivers will be not where they are.
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In the end, Chilly is still a terrible game planner. 7 passes in the first half is fuckin pathetic, for 16 yards..lol. It isnt the first time we've seen this kind of inept performance by our offense.
The 2nd half, up until the int, was how I wish it'd go..offensively. The punt return hurt, badly, but I believe we followed both of their TD's with TD's of our own and it was there to win at the end. Chilly needs to really take a long hard look on how good coaches mix up plays. Run, run pass, punt. or pass, run, pass, punt is all he ever does. If he starts passing on 1st down more and giving AD more screen passes and just giving him the ball more in general gives us A LOT better chance at winning games.
Indy will be tough. Keep 18 off the field with long, time wasting drives and we can hang with them.
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drift86;234994 wrote:
Ok so he was basically just hoping that he was where he was supposed to be and was not covered? Well I'm not a football player but that doesn't sound smart!That is why they are called passing routes. You have to be able to anticipate where your receiver is and hope that he only has man coverage. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. In order to work the QB and the WR need to be on the same page.
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drift86;235010 wrote:
Ya I know but he didn't pass 5 times earlier in the game cause no one was open.Not open and a defender in his intended target area perhaps? No good reads of the defense perhaps? Game not on the line to where you might need to take a chance? There are a number of reasons why he might not have done it before but felt the need to at that time.
Damn it, I just got suckered into defending a Viking QB....
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I still think you are crazy
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We might have lost but atleast we have this.
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drift86;234994 wrote:
Ok so he was basically just hoping that he was where he was supposed to be and was not covered? Well I'm not a football player but that doesn't sound smart!As a general rule, when you walk up to the line of scrimmage and read the coverage, you have a set receiver, otherwise known as a hot read. If you wait for a receiver to actually get open(on most occasions, anyway), it won't turn out well. When they talk about timing, this is exactly what they mean. Passing is all about rhythm and timing. However, not every route works like this(ie streaks). You could tell Jackson was not ready to handle their excellent press coverage(I hate to say it, but I am a Woodson fan, ever since Michigan), but I'd say it was maybe a little too physical to be completely legal........
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New starter this week at QB...
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This is one case where I hope to be wrong but huge mistake. ESPN was just pointing out the fact the Vikings' receivers/tight end have dropped 2 sure TD's and a 190 yards worth of sure catches in these 2 games. There's plenty more that weren't "sure catches" that SHOULD'VE been catches. Not to mention the pathetic play calling...don't even wanna start on the play calling. Fuck the coaching staff. If they use Frerotte like a real QB he might look better but he's not.
But I'm a Vikings fan before a T-Jack fan so a win will be a win no matter who gets the credit but this is a mistake.
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Exactly. We could have had Chad Pennington. What the FUCK are we thinking? We would have been like the Ravens/Bucs for all I cared. We have a GREAT RB, and that makes the passing game MUCH easier, and who better to take advantage of that in our shitty conservative "passing" game, but Mr. Pennington, the career leader in completion percentage. We get big plays in the run game, we don't need an 80 yard pass deep, if we can connect on 70% of passes under 15 yards. It moves the chains. The regime is too stubborn to change its plan and it won't work well. I'm tired of the play calling as well. It's ridiculous. It looked like the Redskins offense from that first monday night game...need 17 on 3rd down you get 4...on 4th down you dump it off to your back and get maybe 8. It's a mirror image.
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TJack sucks. he can't make plays with his arms. outside of the williamson catch and the rice catch, his rating of passes completed 20 yards or more is pathetic, thats 20 yard throw and catch, not 20 yard throw, catch then run.
Great move. Now just open up the playbook
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If the object of football was to stand still and throw a football through a tire hanging from a tree, Gus would probably be the better choice. But our receivers don't know how to get separation and the one that does (berrian) has a hurt toe still so we need that mobility. I'm not saying T-Jack will ever be a Manning, Brady, or even a top 10 quarterback but we haven't seen him fully used. Young quarterbacks need to get into a rhythm. The repetitive and predictable offensive schemes are the last thing that's gonna help him.
Frerotte will likely be sacked 6 or 7 times and they'll have to bring T-Jack back anyway....but if Frerotte can prove me wrong I wouldn't mind it one bit.
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again.
jackson has never proven he can make plays with his arm.
he has shown 0 progression in 16 games. he's too inconsistent.
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He hasn't been given a chance. If we're gonna accuse him of losing games for us, let him lose a full game. Not let him make hand offs up the middle for 57 minutes then expect him to save the day like we did against the Packers. Like I said....rhythm.
I wish we had a back-up for Brad Childress. There's a reason they didn't let him call plays in Philly...........
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Omg. He passes for like 26-30 times a game and only gets 150 yards. Rarely gets a passing td. Hell hes had 2 halves so far this year with 30 passing yards or less.
Its really obvious Childress(who i hate dont get me wrong) has no faith in the kid to do stuff in through the air.
And Im with him there, I think TJack sucks.
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