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just curious about hp...

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  • JoelJ Offline
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    Joel
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    blackcherryTSi;243955 wrote:
    im going for a street car thats got some fast spool up and some alrite power to have at stop lights and race nights and such.... to too much of a track car. maybe see it once or twice just for numbers. the only reason why i totally built the engine is because just in case i want that 300+ hp then i can change just the turbo and stuff.... dont want a car like 1990tsi's that is pretty much useless in town. also want to be able to hook up decent in 1 and 2nd

    then why do you want a turbo fwd car? I believe you are after something like Drifterextremes setup. In which case there is NO reason for a built motor, especially if you are on a tight budget... Seems like you have no problem dishing out 250-350 for rods but you cant spend more than 50 bucks for a turbo?

    no race car? becuz homeowner...

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    • slow90gsxS Offline
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      Ive got a buddy that has a 20g for sale no shafty play.

      Slinging cancer insurance and breaking records.

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      • blackcherryTSiB Offline
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        Joel;243957 wrote:
        then why do you want a turbo fwd car? I believe you are after something like Drifterextremes setup. In which case there is NO reason for a built motor, especially if you are on a tight budget... Seems like you have no problem dishing out 250-350 for rods but you cant spend more than 50 bucks for a turbo?

        because i eventually want that higher hp but right now i cant. dont u think that it makes more sense to spend the money to build the inside first? i do....

        1995 Honda Civic

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        • blackcherryTSiB Offline
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          blackcherryTSi
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          slow90gsx;243959 wrote:
          Ive got a buddy that has a 20g for sale no shafty play.

          how much?

          1995 Honda Civic

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          • gsrEKG Offline
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            i had just a bit over 300 hp and my didnt hook on the street lol if you buy some small meathooks you will be fine. also what kind of clutch are you gonna use?

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            > BlackEJ8;233529 wrote:
            > Has anyone else noticed that almost every one of the recent threads turns into spanish-rice and gsrek bs-ing lol

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            • blackcherryTSiB Offline
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              gsrEK;243963 wrote:
              i had just a bit over 300 hp and my didnt hook on the street lol if you buy some small meathooks you will be fine. also what kind of clutch are you gonna use?

              i believe it has a act stage 1 in it. i havent pulled that motor to c yet. may use that if still good condition..

              1995 Honda Civic

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              • SPANISH-RICES Offline
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                Look into the 20g that would be a fun turbo for the street. But i think those are still mitsu flanged so you would need a new manifold if youd wanna run something different in the future.

                And in that case i think you have a perfect motor for what you want. A cost effective build that will handle 450hp if tuned correctly. Prolly gonna wanna get a little beefier clutch tho.

                here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
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                • slow90gsxS Offline
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                  Make offer.

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                  • blackcherryTSiB Offline
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                    slow90gsx;243974 wrote:
                    Make offer.

                    pm'd

                    1995 Honda Civic

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                    • blackcherryTSiB Offline
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                      SPANISH-RICE;243973 wrote:
                      Look into the 20g that would be a fun turbo for the street. But i think those are still mitsu flanged so you would need a new manifold if youd wanna run something different in the future.

                      And in that case i think you have a perfect motor for what you want. A cost effective build that will handle 450hp if tuned correctly. Prolly gonna wanna get a little beefier clutch tho.

                      whats kinda hp am i looking at with the 20g? and still wondering what the PVC squad is...

                      1995 Honda Civic

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                      • SPANISH-RICES Offline
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                        SPANISH-RICE
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                        joel;243957 wrote:
                        then why do you want a turbo fwd car? I believe you are after something like drifterextremes setup. In which case there is no reason for a built motor, especially if you are on a tight budget... Seems like you have no problem dishing out 250-350 for rods but you cant spend more than 50 bucks for a turbo?

                        whats wrong with a turbo fwd car for what he wants? Traction problems? Almost any other application is just going to run into diff problems and costly clutch swaps with that power to get even close to what hes looking for.

                        He spent money where money should be spent, on the motor. Those rods can be had for 220 dollars. More than likely itll handle power alot better over time then matts 4 door . So he spent an extra 400 dollars on his rebuild for some extra insurance, sounds like a good idea to me.

                        And i think if his power goals are rreally as low as he says than the 14b or 16g turbo would be perfect for him, no reason to knock tried and true 200-300 horsepower turbos even if they arent super stupid expensive.

                        here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
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                          blackcherrytsi;243979 wrote:
                          whats kinda hp am i looking at with the 20g? And still wondering what the pvc squad is...

                          supposedly a large 20g is supposed to be good for 400+ might be a tad bit laggy for what your looking for, a 16g would be an awesome budget turbo. But i think the 20g is an awesome turbo

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                          • blackcherryTSiB Offline
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                            20g for 350... may do it... undecided.... also had a question.. anybody have a jdm dash peice where the cup holders are? kinda vauge but it turns that into just a pocket

                            1995 Honda Civic

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                              https://secure.buschurracing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_38&products_id=434&osCsid=93cf107efb8002a8df95aecaf5226c5c

                              We went to buschur and bought the car from a guy that worked there this is the one^^^

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                                blackcherryTSi;244000 wrote:
                                20g for 350... may do it... undecided.... also had a question.. anybody have a jdm dash peice where the cup holders are? kinda vauge but it turns that into just a pocket

                                http://passwordjdm.com/EG-92-95-Civic-HOP-Optional-Center-Console-P2359C138.aspx

                                here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
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                                  SPANISH-RICE;243981 wrote:
                                  whats wrong with a turbo fwd car for what he wants? Traction problems? Almost any other application is just going to run into diff problems and costly clutch swaps with that power to get even close to what hes looking for.

                                  Please elaborate???..... all knowing one

                                  SPANISH-RICE;243900 wrote:
                                  Woaaa dont get all defensive the only reason why you are involved at all with anything i said was becuase i fucking agreed with you. I was saying that for other people like travis who seemed confused by the idea of someone using a 50 trim and making more power than 270hp.

                                  But im glad that you also know what i know, and that you feel the need to throw around dimensions and basic math i already knew about your useless fucking turbo. Any one can use google and tell you your in./ex. Diameters, congrats

                                  stop trying to sound so smart by telling people the small about about basic shit that you know

                                  You were calling me out, insinuating I was using trim to differentiate the size of turbos...... as bigger or smaller

                                  I only clearly pointed out that different turbos use different characteristics to name them........... and that in this case it was trim that was used

                                  Obviously I looked up the wheel specs of both to illustrate my point....

                                  Since you are so well endowed with the understanding of turbo dynamics will you please help me size the optimum turbo for my setup???........ please master

                                  rx7-8.89@157mph
                                  12v dodge, twins

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                                    200hp on 10 psi

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                                      blackcherryTSi;244000 wrote:
                                      20g for 350... may do it... undecided.... also had a question.. anybody have a jdm dash peice where the cup holders are? kinda vauge but it turns that into just a pocket

                                      hey talk to lil mikey

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                                        the 20g will not be good for his setup right now as i beleave it has a tdo6 compressor wheel and housing? correct me if i'm wrong zac. 1 full size up from the 14b which uses the tdo5 housing, that with the 1 step up turbine wheel and a 10cm turbine housing vs the normal 6 or 7cm turbine housing would slow spool-up, conciderabley.

                                        again with a built bottom end he is capable of running higher boost to compensate for the low compression.

                                        so i don't see how this is a bad set up. he has room to upgrade and it will be plenty fun at the 200-240 whp range with a nice torque curve.

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                                          DrifterExtreme;244062 wrote:
                                          the 20g will not be good for his setup right now as i beleave it has a tdo6 compressor wheel and housing? correct me if i'm wrong zac. 1 full size up from the 14b which uses the tdo5 housing, that with the 1 step up turbine wheel and a 10cm turbine housing vs the normal 6 or 7cm turbine housing would slow spool-up, conciderabley.

                                          Are you being very sarcastic??... or serious??

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