OBAMA is a socialist!!!!
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tjamz;244529 wrote:
What is McCains plan? He's been throwing the "Change" motto out for a while now too. And everything that I've seen says that his tax/spending plan will do far more damage to the nations economy than that of Obama.Answer my question first...
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thrash;244465 wrote:
Well, first off, I don't make anything near 250k/year, but that number is irrelevant because the tax plan he's selling isn't the tax plan we'll get, and looking at it only from a AGI perspective misses all of the other tax disasters he's cooking up. I say "me" to generally mean "people who work". You might be surprised to know that the majority of people in the tax brackets Obama claims he's going to increase taxes for are actually Democrats. Yet Republicans vocally oppose this not out of selfishness or direct self interest, but because coercive wealth redistribution is immoral. We've been doing it a long time, but that doesn't mean its OK to make it worse.Also, I typically don't eat fast food. My wife cooks most of what we eat from scratch. Supersizing tends to give you bigger fries and a drink, both of which have a massive glycemic load and are strongly correlated with early onset Type2 diabeties. So I try and avoid it. That's two stupid assumptions you've made.
But the real point here is this: basically, you feel it is OK to steal money from anyone that makes more than a certain amount of money? Really?
Suppose that I was making 250k a year. You'd come up to me, and say "give me $500 or else?" Seriously? How can you call yourself a human with an attitude like that? And then have the nerve to accuse me of kitten killing?
Or is it ok when 20 people mob together and say "you, with the 250k, give us $5000"?
either way, its fucking theft, and in the latter case, its angry-mob theft.
It's immoral. It's illegal. If you support this sort of government, you may as well wait for me outside work and mug me, hoping to get the trivial amount of cash that I carry.
I am not against helping sick people, nor am I against charitable giving. When I sold my house in Seattle to move here, I gave a tithe on the proceeds of the sale to my Church. I don't want to assume too much about you specifically, but that amounts to more in charitable giving than many people will do in their entire lives.
I am against the outright nationalization of health care, which is what the progressives want, and I am against coercive redistribution of wealth, which is what Obama stands for and re-iterates at every opportunity.
1)dont call me stupid, stupid. i wasnt attacking you. instead of making snide remarks and trying to belittle me with your thesaurus you should be busy not taking this all so seriously.
2)tone down the voice of your pieces, the reading level on this site is not quite at the collegiate level.
3)since you are a christian how can you say that some people SHOULD live lavish lifestyles consuming things simply for the sake of consuming and worshipping a false idol ie MONEY while others toil their lives in the gutter, bearing the weight of society on their shoulders ie working class/poverty stricken individuals? does that land on your moral compass? or does being a christian simply excuse you for having to rationalize all of that because you give "offerings" every sunday? i guess thats the beauty of subscribing to a religion where you can break all of the rules and just say "im sorry" at the end of the day and all is forgiven. its doesnt really matter how you treat your fellow man because a "my bad" will save your soul. send that dying man to the county hospital because he doesnt have insurence, he could die but im sorry thats store policy. HA. christians.
4)do yourself a favor and dont bring up your religion when your arguing anything. it makes you look like a fool. not to mention bragging about giving a bunch of money to the church is a sin. pride. hubris. vanity. good thing you can repent and confess or that last reply of yours could have really dicked you huh?
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not if you can help it, you dont want to pay for it!
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we already pay for it you fuck.... were the hell did i say i want people to get turned away from hospitals? i have no problem paying for someone to go to the hospital with my tax money... i do have a problem giving someone who dosent pay taxes my hard earned money...
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Parker;244665 wrote:
we already pay for it you fuck....yea, reluctantly.
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i dont feel the need to spread my wealth to others that dont fuckin deserve it... if you cant make it on your own... there are ALREADY programs to help you get back on your feet and keep you alive, state healthcare... food stamps, welfare, disablility the list goes on and on.... we pay for that with OUR taxes, and no one says boo about it
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Parker;244667 wrote:
i dont feel the need to spread my wealth to others that dont fuckin deserve it... if you cant make it on your own... there are ALREADY programs to help you get back on your feet and keep you alive, state healthcare... food stamps, welfare, disablility the list goes on and on.... we pay for that with OUR taxes, and no one says boo about itWORD!! There are jobs, go find them... Shit, MacDonald's is hiring somewhere here/there I bet.. Go work there, find something to try make the bills and find the job that you would feel more comfortable having while you work some other job. Hell, they even have Labor Ready and pay that day! There are ways of making $$$ even if your so lazy w/ no ambition (donate plasma, do PRACs) But if your a healthy person capable of working but choose not to because your lazy, you don't deserve shit.. The government should not support you in anyway..... So if your some broke ass bitch, start filling out those employment apps.
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Parker;244667 wrote:
i dont feel the need to spread my wealth to others that dont fuckin deserve it... if you cant make it on your own... there are ALREADY programs to help you get back on your feet and keep you alive, state healthcare... food stamps, welfare, disablility the list goes on and on.... we pay for that with OUR taxes, and no one says boo about it
why do people always forget about the programs that AlREADY exist!man this piss's me off
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Bookem;244746 wrote:
From an honest outsiders view, this actually makes you look like a fool.my bad. i forgot that christian bashing was out of bounds. maybe if i publicly declared myself a racist like so many others on here i will be taken seriously?
if you formulate an opinion of me by what i say on here that is fine, but realize everything i post is purely to anger people.
thrash, since your so well versed in the english language you should apply the words irony and satire to the posts which you find offensive. perhaps it will save you half an hour trying to defend yourself from something that has absolutely no malicious intent or merit. believe it or not, not everyone on here is actually trying to prove something by arguing/debating/etc. some of us log on here simply to see if the internet really IS serious business.
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02AccordEXV6;244677 wrote:
The problem with the so called universal health care is that it would be so abused, it would end up costing wayyyyyyy too much.. and the fuck if I'm going to pay for thathe calls for universal ONLY for children...those who can't work on their own and for whatever reason their parents don't have healthcare for them....I think you have him and Clinton mixed up.
Basically he wants the fed gov't to cover catastrophic health problems...basically a re-insurance (like FDIC or any other disaster relief program) that would cover you when your insurance has reached its limits. Yes, this is a very simplistic view of how his plan is laid out, but I'm trying to summarize it.
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