For the import haters
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nice Days of Thunder quote there 63vette...I LOL'ed
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Lol at everything. My pos tracer gets the same gas mileage as your precious hondas. And I just replaced my original thermostat this week. The only thing that has ever gone wrong with that thing is the tranny went out at 180,000 miles due to my fault. And 2 timing belts but thats expected. Now that thing has 210,000 miles and ill line it up stock for stock with any honda with over 200k. Yea Im going to turbo it eventually for shits and giggles. But ill admit that rwd anything is better than any fwd. Im just doing this because its cheaper for me and I can actually do my own shit.
And if you wanna go hp/liter well the mazda gtr which uses the same exact motor as my tracer can pump out over 325whp on stock turbo. So lets see at 1.8 liters id say thats well over 100hp/liter. Show me a honda using all oem parts ruinning 12s.
I didnt get my pos fwd because I thought it would be fast.
And seriously quit taking about gas mileage, if your worried about gas mileage your in the wrong game. Go hug some trees or something.
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bubba;282832 wrote:
.And at 200k... most hondas are just getting broke in...
lol.... mmmk
remember this isn't a cummins
yes they are reliable and long runners, but to say that an engine like that is at 100% at 200k is ridiculous......show me a leakdown of under 7% on a 200k honda motor..... it will be few and bar between
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this thread is so dumb.
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Bp-08;282818 wrote:
Lol at everything. My pos tracer gets the same gas mileage as your precious hondas. And I just replaced my original thermostat this week. The only thing that has ever gone wrong with that thing is the tranny went out at 180,000 miles due to my fault. And 2 timing belts but thats expected. Now that thing has 210,000 miles and ill line it up stock for stock with any honda with over 200k. Yea Im going to turbo it eventually for shits and giggles. But ill admit that rwd anything is better than any fwd. Im just doing this because its cheaper for me and I can actually do my own shit.And if you wanna go hp/liter well the mazda gtr which uses the same exact motor as my tracer can pump out over 325whp on stock turbo. So lets see at 1.8 liters id say thats well over 100hp/liter. Show me a honda using all oem parts ruinning 12s.
I didnt get my pos fwd because I thought it would be fast.
And seriously quit taking about gas mileage, if your worried about gas mileage your in the wrong game. Go hug some trees or something.
my god your stupid.
anyone think of nicks little pos civic that ran 11.9 with a stock d series on a damn safc. yeah that thing ran stock motors.
dude there are 500+hp stock k series motors out there, just shut up.
this thread has went to shit.
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nah...this thread started out as shit (talking) and got dumber as it went along (somehow)
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DrifterExtreme;282721 wrote:
this argument has turned to shit, thanks zac, parker, and gary....you guys really need to get a clue, it was never about who was faster or w/e
as ANYONE knows that rwd is better for drag racing. just like mid engine is better for handling(weight distribution and all).
So why pound the fact into the ground. we get it, and i have never said fwd>rwd.
and ws6transam..... what does having a 11 sec car and having one that is capable of running 11's different? thats the same thing as saying i have a zr1 corvette it ran xx.x in the 1/4 mile.( by a pro). does that mean i don't have a car that runs xx.x in the 1/4?
you smoking something buddy?
also how does mpg NOT come into effect with a car. why would i build a car that get 8mpg with the same "potential" as a car that can get 25-35 mpg?
ask gary as he is braggin up his mpg, he must be stupid....
think about it a honda can go run 10's and still drive around getting 35+ mpg. that is impressive no matter how you look at it.
can a v8 do it, maybe but most likely not. i can't even beleave you guys are arguing mpg. i mean there is no argument from the v8 side. admit 4cyl is better for mileage. just like a big ass v8 can make big ass hp.
/argument
There is a big difference between having a 11 second car( that actually runs 11's at a track) or having enough power to theoretically runs 11's. Real world numbers vary from ideals and theoretical numbers. If you cant put the power to the ground what good is it?
You are going to extremes on the mpg (8 is ridiculous). MPG is not a concern when I am building a street strip car.
Why would I build a car that gets half the mileage of a car that has the same "potential". Easy
-Longevity of build (Motor and drivetrain to last longer)
-Traction (rwd vs fwd)I have never argued gas mileage. 4cyl gas mileage FTW!
oh and yes, I fully agree it is very impressive for a honda to run 10's period, without even getting 35+mpg. Its fun to see cars like that.
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bubba;282832 wrote:
Stock K series in an EF = 12's...And at 200k... most hondas are just getting broke in...
exactly lol
wow this thread hahah
well my 93 honda civic has 200k on shell and it gets about 32-34 mpg on e85 and i have timeslips to prove my car went 11's and its a street car and i could drive it to the track and race it.
Grr, u congratulated me after my 11.47 pass was that because you felt sorry for me doing that in a civic? i mean if your such a american muscle leg humper on here why would you say that to me?
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gsrEK;283071 wrote:
exactly lolGrr, u congratulated me after my 11.47 pass was that because you felt sorry for me doing that in a civic? i mean if your such a american muscle leg humper on here why would you say that to me?
what does that have to do with anything? you did a good job getting the car there, no objections. and im not a muscle leg humper ive owned and messed with alot of other things, but when the goal is to to make a race car it just makes sense to start with a reasonably easy platform, aka RWD v8
It was cool to see you do that, but, its still a gutted FWD honda. Sorry its one thing to have a fast car but another that can do it in "street trim", aka, not gutted, on reasonable tires and such. I can go get my drag sled out that weighs 320lbs and run 10s, then come on here and run my mouth that i did it with only 190hp and its an import to boot, but it wouldnt be that big of a deal now would it, since im not gonna drive it to BIR and go arbys like that and pick up some roast beef
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Grr;283077 wrote:
what does that have to do with anything? you did a good job getting the car there, no objections. and im not a muscle leg humper ive owned and messed with alot of other things, but when the goal is to to make a race car it just makes sense to start with a reasonably easy platform, aka RWD v8It was cool to see you do that, but, its still a gutted FWD honda. Sorry its one thing to have a fast car but another that can do it in "street trim", aka, not gutted, on reasonable tires and such. I can go get my drag sled out that weighs 320lbs and run 10s, then come on here and run my mouth that i did it with only 190hp and its an import to boot, but it wouldnt be that big of a deal now would it, since im not gonna drive it to BIR and go arbys like that and pick up some roast beef
mkay just curious, thanks for the good job anyway, and it has no passenger seat for gutting part
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gsrEK;283080 wrote:
mkay just curious, thanks for the good job anyway, and it has no passenger seat for gutting partglad thats settled then
Oh i have been wanting to ask you, how is the trip on those slicks when they are that low? Any big issues with shimmy (other than tq steer) or nervousness making the turnoff at the end?
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Grr;283086 wrote:
glad thats settled thenOh i have been wanting to ask you, how is the trip on those slicks when they are that low? Any big issues with shimmy (other than tq steer) or nervousness making the turnoff at the end?
not at all, these slicks run down the track very well, i mean when they are low its kinda hard to turn but thats about it. my slicks i had last year shook my whole car on deccerlation tho bad.
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