August 27th Tintmasters Street Legal Roll Call
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- IMHO, FWD/AWD are at a large disadvantage when leaving the line. (Am I really hearing big turbo v8 guys crying about the little imports?
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Referring to AWD cars, I would say exactly the opposite.
Great job on saturday Guys. I have been attending these events for a long time and would have to say, that was the smoothest running tintmasters event yet. Keep up the great work!
- IMHO, FWD/AWD are at a large disadvantage when leaving the line. (Am I really hearing big turbo v8 guys crying about the little imports?
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I doubt domin8r was crying but thanks for clearing up. It was a little inconvenient but I was able to bolt my street tires back on after making some all out passes and compete in the quick 8. Nice job on the event!
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joe was getting some 1.4s the last event in his evo during the middle of the day right among all the cars running regular street tires
once we sorted some stuff i had a couple 1.4s too leaving easy enough on the footbrake
that was just on 26x9 slicks too
track surface was great, if my chassis was sorted out for drag it would hit 1.3s on the little slicks no problem at a street legal event
that is saying something about the track condition
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i have the white capri. generally i run a 1.6-1.7 60' i have managed a 1.58once on transbrake without the 2 step but i generally just blow the tires off. i can drop the pressure in the tires and do a better 60' but it floats down the track and gives me the pucker effect.
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2wheeler;324491 wrote:
Here are the simplest answers I can make for your questions:-
The rules information was not transferred correctly to the Q8 handout we have been using for 2011. The handout says 28x10s are the limit, so that's what we've been using. That will now be changed BACK to 28x10.5 for the remaining 2 Q8s of 2011. Have your brother bolt em back on and bring it back.
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IMHO, FWD/AWD are at a large disadvantage when leaving the line. (Am I really hearing big turbo v8 guys crying about the little imports?
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Yes, we will run the remaining Q8s of 2011 with the same rules that your link is showing.
Looking for some clarity on the above
Are wheel tubs allowed?
Will a 12.5 dot tire be allowed et street, Hoosier dot, etc?
Any plans to change the tire rules for next year? -
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mat50ho;324524 wrote:
Looking for some clarity on the above
Are wheel tubs allowed?
Will a 12.5 dot tire be allowed et street, Hoosier dot, etc?
Any plans to change the tire rules for next year?I'll answer these by just putting the entire set of rules for the remaining Q8s.
- No wheel tubs. (mini tubs ok)
- No wheelie bars.
- For RWD vehicles, full slicks may be no bigger than 28x10.5 (no 'W's).
- For RWD vehicles, DOT slicks may be no bigger than 28x12.5.
- For RWD vehicles, drag radials may be no bigger than 325/50.
- AWD and FWD vehicles can run any size tire.
- You and your vehicle are required to have any necessary safety equipment. Top End Dragways can prohibit you from running at ANY time. For instance, If you aren't tech'd to run in the 9's, and you run a 9 second pass in the quarter finals(and win), T.E.D. might warn you not to run in the 9's again. If you ran another 9 in the semis (and win), T.E.D. can kick you from the track for the day. This would eliminate you from the final, and any prize money. This is all up to T.E.D's management. There will be no debating this. What Charlie says is final.
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Just take the tubs out Jim, and with a little 28" tire you won't need the wheelie bar anyway. My tubs come out pretty easy, I'd just have to put up a wall to keep the rocks and stuff from hitting me in the back of the head.
DaveH
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DaveH;324530 wrote:
I'd just have to put up a wall to keep the rocks and stuff from hitting me in the back of the head.Isn't that what the helmet is for??
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2wheeler;324527 wrote:
Not right now. Suggestions are welcome.Heres something, not sure how it would work but the cars are suppose to be street legal, right? We take the cars that have insurance, current tabs, and a dot approved tire (limited size maybe?), and take these cars on a 20 to 30 mile drive see if they make it. Allow for a short cool down, make one run, to see were they land in the standings. Then set up the bracket and do the runs for the winner. O and the last time the cars are able to be touch is before the 20 to 30 mile run. After that any hoods opened or any programing done will disqualify the car and driver! I would say tire pressure would be ok to change but that would be about all you could change once they are started.
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TRMN8U;324532 wrote:
Heres something, not sure how it would work but the cars are suppose to be street legal, right?
No. 'Street Legal' is a name, period. I would be willing to bet that exactly zero of the vehicles that have competed in any Q8s pass all state/DOT regulations.TRMN8U;324532 wrote:
We take the cars that have insurance, current tabs, and a dot approved tire (limited size maybe?), and take these cars on a 20 to 30 mile drive see if they make it. Allow for a short cool down, make one run, to see were they land in the standings. Then set up the bracket and do the runs for the winner. O and the last time the cars are able to be touch is before the 20 to 30 mile run. After that any hoods opened or any programing done will disqualify the car and driver! I would say tire pressure would be ok to change but that would be about all you could change once they are started.
I can't even imagine the manpower it would take to pull this off. I am curious to hear the opinions of people that have competed in Q8s. -
2wheeler;324535 wrote:
No. 'Street Legal' is a name, period. I would be willing to bet that exactly zero of the vehicles that have competed in any Q8s pass all state/DOT regulations.I can't even imagine the manpower it would take to pull this off. I am curious to hear the opinions of people that have competed in Q8s.
I have competed in the Q8 everytime I have gone to the event! I didn't think it would work out but I thought I would just throw it out there. I want to go to a steet legal event were you have to do a trip like that. The closest one I know of was in Ohio this past summer. My car is a daily driver unless its raining or there is snow on the ground!
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I think some of the people that bring there race car's to these event's are trying 1. different tune's or new setup's 2. trying to get practice at the tree. Cause I know when i go out there. It's to play around in my buddy's race car legally minus the nhra license that will be needed soon
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TRMN8U;324532 wrote:
Heres something, not sure how it would work but the cars are suppose to be street legal, right? We take the cars that have insurance, current tabs, and a dot approved tire (limited size maybe?), and take these cars on a 20 to 30 mile drive see if they make it. Allow for a short cool down, make one run, to see were they land in the standings. Then set up the bracket and do the runs for the winner. O and the last time the cars are able to be touch is before the 20 to 30 mile run. After that any hoods opened or any programing done will disqualify the car and driver! I would say tire pressure would be ok to change but that would be about all you could change once they are started.name one car that has competed in the Q8 that is a track only car or one that wouldn't make it 30 miles on the street??
its great just the way it is, and alot of fun
dont like it, go faster
and i think slicks have to be allowed, the faster cars would be tearing the crap out of the track using radials when they are not setup for them
i know I took a chunk out once or twice on the radials, and felt bad
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2wheeler;324526 wrote:
I'll answer these by just putting the entire set of rules for the remaining Q8s.- No wheel tubs.
- No wheelie bars.
- For RWD vehicles, full slicks may be no bigger than 28x10.5 (no 'W's).
- For RWD vehicles, DOT slicks may be no bigger than 28x12.5.
- For RWD vehicles, drag radials may be no bigger than 325/50.
- AWD and FWD vehicles can run any size tire.
- You and your vehicle are required to have any necessary safety equipment. Top End Dragways can prohibit you from running at ANY time. For instance, If you aren't tech'd to run in the 9's, and you run a 9 second pass in the quarter finals(and win), T.E.D. might warn you not to run in the 9's again. If you ran another 9 in the semis (and win), T.E.D. can kick you from the track for the day. This would eliminate you from the final, and any prize money. This is all up to T.E.D's management. There will be no debating this. What Charlie says is final.
Looks pretty good.
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I think the Quick 8's are being run well and the rules work nicely. Have to keep it simple. I think I will try find a white board to donate for these events so we can see a board with Quick 8 updates. Keep it up.
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