Why doesn't anybody race?
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tjamz wrote:
hehe...yeah, she was driving the wrx on friday and on her way home from work when an orange mazda 6 wagon w/ cf hood starts revving on her on the 45th street overpass stoplight. So she vacuum locks the brakes, revs the car to 4700 RPM and destroys him off the line. Then they both get into the turn lane so she intentionally keeps him close through the off ramp as he pulls onto the interstate he starts accelerating again so she again hits the gas and pulls away from him... I was so proud when I heard that story...lolHaha, thats awesome! Time to get a car for the wife...
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We're thinking about that actually. I want to get her something that very few people have, seeing how I can't afford a Ferrari, I'll have to settle on something else..heh. Thinking maybe a Starion, but she likes the look of the 240sx quite a bit, so maybe a 240sx w/ RB25 conversion, sylvia front end. Going to have to wait until I get my tax refund and xmas bonus to even think about her car.
The other option is to turbo her Rav4, maybe drop it a little and add a bomex body kit as well (she likes showy stuff). Pettit Racing makes a turbo kit for the Rav4, but I think I could piece one together for less than 5k. The pettit kit puts the HP numbers up to about 250 WHP (I think...it's been a while since I looked), so that could be quite the sleeper she'd have..lol.
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You honestly want to know the problem with the scene in this town?
People here are stupid. They don't know anything about cars, they don't know what parts to buy for their cars, and they don't really care about anything other than fucking neon. I see it every day at work where random people will come in and just really have no general knowledge of anything but they want stuff that "looks cool".
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DING! We have a winner. You are exactly right. However, isn't it partially the shops responsibility to try and open their eyes to new experiences. I mean, wouldn't it make sense for everyone involved in this game to say to the guy that's coming in for the neons "Hey, I haven't seen you around before, a bunch of us are going out to Sabin to watch the races this Friday, you should come along, there will be some pretty cool cars out there and I think you'd enjoy it.......look for my car its the _______ I will be racing as well.....bring along some friends as well, it's a good time"
That way you are opening several doors...you are getting the trust of the customer by having him hang out with the guys from the shop, you are opening him up to the world of dragracing..thereby possibly creating a ton more business for your shop. SLS and Type-R might be the exception to this rule, I think just about everyone who goes there is already into the scene, or else they wouldn't even know about them. But Tintmasters, Roadsounds, Team, Autowerx, and anyone else I'm forgetting should be proactively trying to nurture these people into coming out. Maybe you guys are doing that already, I don't know.
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tjamz wrote:
DING! We have a winner. You are exactly right. However, isn't it partially the shops responsibility to try and open their eyes to new experiences. I mean, wouldn't it make sense for everyone involved in this game to say to the guy that's coming in for the neons "Hey, I haven't seen you around before, a bunch of us are going out to Sabin to watch the races this Friday, you should come along, there will be some pretty cool cars out there and I think you'd enjoy it.......look for my car its the _______ I will be racing as well.....bring along some friends as well, it's a good time"That way you are opening several doors...you are getting the trust of the customer by having him hang out with the guys from the shop, you are opening him up to the world of dragracing..thereby possibly creating a ton more business for your shop. SLS and Type-R might be the exception to this rule, I think just about everyone who goes there is already into the scene, or else they wouldn't even know about them. But Tintmasters, Roadsounds, Team, Autowerx, and anyone else I'm forgetting should be proactively trying to nurture these people into coming out. Maybe you guys are doing that already, I don't know.
Yeah, we dont get that crowd of people into the shop because that is not the market we suite/support. We do not stock the items such as neon, altezza's, etc.. SO when someone walks in the door they have performance in mind, which is mainly what we deal in. If the local shops dont stock these "ricer" items and soldonly performancemore people would be into performance. But thats not the case in this town for other shops....
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PSiedTSi wrote:
V6...its lighter and plus you can take the money you would need to buy the V8 and put it in the V6 and TURBO IT!agreed. Turbocharge it as is for the time being. Keep the boost low and make somewhere close to 250ish RWHP and have a decently quick car. When you're ready for more, have a Stroked 4.2L built (4.3L) and slap that in there. Relatively easy swap I understand, will run off factory electronics (need to be dyno tuned of course), and crank the boost up.
(but I think we've been over this before...)
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personally, the reason i dont race is because i dont have the money to. sure its not too hard to find a safe place to do it, but if for some reason i get caught, i dont have the money to pay for a fine. that and i know if i pushed my car that hard something is bound to break... and i dont want to pay to have it fixed..... again.
if i had a little better cash flow, hell id be out there every night racing whoever wanted to.
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for me money is no object, I drive a black awd talon with gunmetal stock swirl rims. I traveled about 15 hours to look at it, I dicided to buy it and took it home. I had it for two weeks and melted a piston. My fault, my wiring on my mas was shitty so it fucked up my air fuel so bad it melted a piston. What im trying to get at is I've blown up my second car in less than a year and keep getting new ones, in this cars case fixing it. I dont make very much money. but i still try to keep the scene alive. When the new motor is dropped in I'll race harwood even. I dont care, its fun.
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amicheze wrote:
we still need to go mr mx6. i havent figured out what that noise is yet but whenever i get that taken care of we'll definitely have to race.For sure. By the way that last post wasn't me it was my buddy Brian.
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"I don't understand this coming from you becuase just above that you posted how a car that is fast but doesn't have heavy subs or "ice" or riced out bodkits is a POS. Sounds like some hatin' going on... Anyway, I also don't think you understand what is involved in building a "race" car, I'd be pretty impressed if you spent $10,000 and blow the doors of the POS you seem to be talking about."
sorry dont know how to use the quote thing, but this car I was talking about, was no car in general, I couldnt even remember the last car I saw like that. But when i lived in fergus this type of thing would happen and a few occurances in fargo I am mainly talking about a car that is about to fall apart and rusting out, all ripped up and whatever. The reason I would rip on them is because they harass me, so that gets to me, so then I say things like that. If all they want is a fast car that is fine, but dont be a dick to me because I made different choices. I'm not talking about anyone on the board or any of that. and for ten grand I could make a 11.9 sec paseo or faster if I put it all into the motor and stripped the car out.
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I could really care less if I know you, or if I don't, you were acting like a cocky bastard regardless of where or who it was directed to. I'm sorry that you live here in fargo, and nobody knows the real you...
Oh "I know for a fact you dont know me or have any idea what i would or wouldn't know" either. Ok. Super. I won't be getting to know you, and you wont be visiting MY website anymore.
Perm. Banned.
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TRE wrote:
"Anyway, I also don't think you understand what is involved in building a "race" car"I guess I am a dumb fuck now and I have no idea what goes on in a motor, and or no idea how to make power. I just must be some ricer like everyone else, because I have a body kit and subs. There is about 3 or 4 people that even know me on this board and I know for a fact you dont know me or have any idea what i would and or wouldn't know. Even the 3 or 4 people that know me don't really know much about me, who I am, or what I would and wouldn't know.
Funny how you mention how you assume people dont know what you're talking about... Last time i checked you were the one telling me i didn't know what i was talking about when it came to turbo's, FMIC's, etc.... So i wouldn't go rambling about everyone else...
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the whole "why don't people race" was on my mind when i decided not to register my car this summer and just keep it in the garage until next summer (that and i don't want to drop $400+ on new tires).
granted, i haven't been out to sabin, but fri-sun is when i make money, i can't afford to skip those days right now. however, if you come across me on the street and i don't see any cops, that's a different story. the only exceptions are those cars that aren't worth my time, you know what i mean: sohc saturns, most hondas, cavaliers, and trucks, etc. i feel bad when i cross the intersection on a bad launch and make them look like they can't find the gas pedal, or when i drop down a gear and make the other car look like they hit the brakes. it just isn't fun.
the good races i've had are from a roll: jim before the 14b on the interstate, vr6 golf (before pat bought the 1.8t; with gentle, rev-matching shifting), 1.8t golf (from 35+/- only 3rd), 2nd gst (from 35+/- only 3rd), and an 89 probe gt (gentle rev-matching again). it was a great time racing the evo and brian's 2g gsx, i'd like to try the evo again next year with better tires and a real launch.
the cars i want to run against never seem to be out: hondas with more than cat-backs, other dsms, or some muscle cars. i wouldn't care about losing, i just want something that i can use to gauge MY performance by.
ah well... it'll have to wait until next summer now -
So, just to ask.....why did TRE get banned for that last post?
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PSI2HI wrote:
Funny how you mention how you assume people dont know what you're talking about... Last time i checked you were the one telling me i didn't know what i was talking about when it came to turbo's, FMIC's, etc.... So i wouldn't go rambling about everyone else...We got into a disagreement about how big is too big of an intercooler that was it. I read an article or two made by professionals and you do the stuff day in and day out, we are proboly both right in some way. I never once said I know this or know that through experience, I was just goin off of what I read. I'm not trying to make enimies on here, I came on here to make friends, and bring people together. Maybe some of my words back there were harsh im not sure I haven't reread them. I am sorry If i affended anyone. I didn't want to attack anybody, but people sure attacked me, and now im so attacked that I am banned? That just doesn't make sence to me.
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