From the mouth of a cop regarding the exhaust tickets.
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hmm this is going to bite and I guess the real test will be to see how many of us domestic guys get pulled over in comparison to the import guys. but I agree that all the kids on this site should stay out of this. not to say that you guys might not know what you're talking about, but you're age will play a role with the police and they won't take you seriously. it's a terrible thing but it's how it works.
I am one for taking the legal route to problems so I think perhaps the best way to resolve this would be for all of us to observe the situation and look at all the laws and which ones are legal and which ones are not. Cops do have to follow the law and areheld to a higher standard then the rest of us. So if this is a harassment issue I think that we would be able to make a decent case about it. After all this is ND and it has an old school republican goverment behind it.
So please lets not bitch about this one too much, but instead accept it, best case it will get all the idiots out of the scene and just leave the guys that are serious and respectful to thier passion. -
i guess it will suck to be me and i will post every time i get a ticket for this too!!!
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PSI2HI wrote:
There is a lot of unknown information to the public. But from talking to the people from the Forum about the press release about the exhaust issues, that is just the start of what is to come, so be prepared for more.do you have any idea what else they are going to do?
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well I was reading through fargo city code and it appears that resinators are legal, not sure if fart cans classify under that. if you are curious as to where to find this, i got to it by going to http://www.fargopd.com as a matter of law all regulations and codes must be available to the public.
on an off note I read in there a regulation stating that all vehicles MUST have a horn. Also it made it seem as though BOV's are not legal. maybe it was just worded funny, but it really got me.
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86fc3s-ummmm, guess what, modifying a car is illegal, cops just don't enforce it yet. Just because the part you buy says "50 state legal" doesn't mean that it is, it means that it can pass emmissions or safety standards in all 50 states. The parts that aren't "50 state legal" are "for offroad use only."
Hence the modified vehicle tickets, If you modify a vehicle you can get a ticket for it.
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WOW
this could get ugly in a hurry.
sure hope the deal with BOV being illegal in false. as they come on many stock turbo vehicles right?as for the bumblebee exhaust....what benefits to performance do you gain from it?
i know freeflowing is a definite benefit when it comes to gaining horses and torque, but does it have to be "loud" to get these benefits?how many older folks do you know that were or are involved in the musclecar scene? can any insight be gained from their past experiences? as i am sure they got hassled in the past.
Monty
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Ok, I sent an email to the fargopd regarding some clarification on this matter. I asked them what, if any, guidelines the officers have to follow regarding exhaust noise and if they did intend to enforce these ordinances across the board. I didn't accuse them of anything, I just asked for their opinions on what constitutes a ticket. I asked if I can expect to see muscle cars and pickup trucks enforced at the same level as "speed racers". I explained that most of us would be happy to comply if we knew what we had to comply with.
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tjamz wrote:
Ok, I sent an email to the fargopd regarding some clarification on this matter. I asked them what, if any, guidelines the officers have to follow regarding exhaust noise and if they did intend to enforce these ordinances across the board. I didn't accuse them of anything, I just asked for their opinions on what constitutes a ticket. I asked if I can expect to see muscle cars and pickup trucks enforced at the same level as "speed racers". I explained that most of us would be happy to comply if we knew what we had to comply with.give us the low down when they get back to you on that.
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Oh, I will, don't worry.
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chuck your fucked !!! i got an idea for my civic , 3in down pipe that goes in the stock cat back w an elect exhaust cut out that dumps all over the fargo roads... cop pulls me over for loud exhaust Iwill ask if hes smoking something.... lol
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Nah, I'm old and stuff, I don't get harrassed like you guys do. Besides I drive a 4 door family car.....I should buy a car seat, maybe that'd help get me out of tickets...
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why should chuck be afraid, he drives a malibu and a rav 4. y0
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I agree most mods are illegal, Leaded Race Gas, Slicks, No Convertors, Loud Assed Exhaust and so on. Well the only thing I dont have is the convertor otherwise my exhaust is not obnoxiously asking for a ticket. I run pump gas and treaded tires. I also dont have all the bling such as body kits and neon lights attracting a shit load of attention to my car. Everyone does this stuff to there cars so everyoe looks at there car, well guess what the police are people to and they will tend to notice all that crap. I see a lot of cockiness in the import crowd and some almost have a smug attitude towards others. Well you wanted the attention now you got it. The police dotn just decide on stuff like this. After the police get numorous complaints on stuff they crack down on it. Hence the party patrol, now its the import cars and cycles. I have a import car and will be grouped in with the rest of ya however I am not weaving through traffic and running reds and being disrespectful on the roads. I dont have a loud ass stereo thumping while I am driving through neighborhoods or loud ass fart canned exhaust. As far as the guys who make a living off this stuff and are worried about there business just set a good example for these younger guys. They will do what you do. Also if you see a fellow tuner or even a ricer driving around disrespectfully dont be scared to do a on the spot correction. If they dont like what you have to say then say fine I will turn your ass in myself if I see you doing that again. We can either police ourselves or someone else will do it for us. If you search the police website you will see all the complaints they have been getting on this stuff. They have to do somthing and there is more complaints then there is of us. So we can holla all we want but the fact is they will look at us, our cars, the stereos some of us have and we will be pre judged and lose. The citizens of Fargo are sick of this shit. We can just clean up our act, and behave in town. There is plenty of places to go have fun outside of town. The thing is everyone wants everyone to see em showing off on 13th ot 25th. The funny thing is most of the showoffs have gutless rice mobiles or are Bosnians who just dont know how to drive. Its sad but not everyone is into cars or bikes. The majority of the population does not care about cars or how fast they are or how good they look. Those people are the ones who are sick of it and they out number us. Sorry guys majority rules. The cops are gonna listen to these people not us. I believe most of us are not the cause of htis. It is the ricer APC crowd. Well tkae care guys my rant is done
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tjamz wrote:
Nah, I'm old and stuff, I don't get harrassed like you guys do. Besides I drive a 4 door family car.....I should buy a car seat, maybe that'd help get me out of tickets...I've got to agree with Chuck on this 100%... when I first moved to town I had cops following me all the time but it didn't bother me much because I knew I had to do something stupid to get pulled over.... the only reason it bothered me a little is cause it was profiling me as a kid cause I have been fixing up my "newer" car and cause of having a license plate with the mazda theme on it which I knew that would draw some attention from cops but the thing is they don't follow me anymore cause they know I'm not one of them ripping up the streets and hardly ever have my sterio cranked... specially like I did when I was younger
And if we do see that only imports or half breads like mine (ford powered import) and bikes are the only one's and not the load ass trucks or muscle cars then we need to document this and take action on it
I'm going to start an area for posts of if you got a ticket I think it would be a good Idea to only put tickets in the area.
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Hmm. Weird. Same reason we quit cruising with the retards.
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tjamz wrote:
I asked if I can expect to see muscle cars and pickup trucks enforced at the same level as "speed racers". I explained that most of us would be happy to comply if we knew what we had to comply with.Don't drag the muscle car guys into this.
Hehe, yeah, I know, he drives it sometimes too.
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