Battlefield 2
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tjamz wrote:
Ok, so if I give you $500 you will build me a PC that will player EQ2 w/ all the settings maxed?
settings maxed... that will be dependent on the resolution of the monitor (ie my monitor maxes out at 1280x1024). besides that, i haven't played that game yet (i'm not a big fan of rpg's while i'm going to school full-time. i could build one that will play it though, unless it's more graphic-intensive than bf2... -
out there wrote:
settings maxed... that will be dependent on the resolution of the monitor (ie my monitor maxes out at 1280x1024). besides that, i haven't played that game yet (i'm not a big fan of rpg's while i'm going to school full-time. i could build one that will play it though, unless it's more graphic-intensive than bf2...Heh, it was a loaded question. My monitor maxes out at 1600x1200, but thats beside the point. To date, noone has assembled a computer capable of playing EQ2 w/ everything maxed. Can I just have the computer and the $500 now please?
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like i said, i doubt i can build something for 500 (short of jumping at risky used parts) that would handle the maximum settings of a game i've never played.
if it was really worth my time, i would acquire a copy of everquest 2 and play it to see just how horrendous the max settings at 1280x1024 (because 17" is what most people have) are and then start looking.tjamz wrote:
Can I just have the computer and the $500 now please?
bah, like i'd be foolish enough to walk into something like that... -
heh, had to try.
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amicheze wrote:
so what league are you in? open/invite/main? you dont have to be good to be in cal. in fact, most people really arent. ive personally been on public server scrim teams that have completely DESTROYED cal teams in quake 3 and ET.
i was in cal main theres no cal-i in cod uo.
tjamz im sure theres some guy out there with dual 7800gtx's fx 57 processor and like 4 gigs ram that could run it to its max.
out there i would come if u guys played games i play, i play little bf2 never played bf19whatever.
once u play one a really good computer youll understand why spending 2000 dollers on a computer is worth your time and money. once u spend 60+ hours a week online playing games youll understand why it worth the extra money. -
battlefield 2 is a carbon-copy of 1942, but with less mods available... hence, 1942 is better at this point.
once i spend 60+ hrs/week??? basically, you're telling me that you know more about computer hardware than someone that found the cisco networking academy boring?
i've been tinkering with computers since before you learned how to type.
ever used a pc with less than a mb of ram?
how about a pc with a processor slower than 33mhz?
what about being overjoyed when you got a pc with a modem faster than 14.4?
how many computers have you assembled without any outside assistance?
how many people come to you when they can't get online at school?
how many people come to you before they go shopping for a computer?
do you know what a dot-matrix printer is?
why do athlons use less power than pentiums?
what does sd-ram stand for?
ever used sd-ram?
what is an ide device?
what does ide stand for?
ever seen a crt?
do you know what a crt is?
do you know what binary language is?
would you laugh if you read: "there are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't"?
do you know what ip stands for?
do you know what a router does?
a switch?
a hub?
what is a mac address?
do you know your mac address?
do you know your ip address?
do you know how to figure it out?
what does ms-dos stand for?
do you know any ms-dos commands?
ever used any operating system other than windows?
can you name 2 operating systems other than windows?
how many more times do i have to make you feel stupid by asking you questions that you can't answer?back to the matter at hand: tell me what your pc has to offer and we'll compare
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Extremely stupid questions have been omitted. People think there smart when they got A+.......you can get it out of a cracker jack box now.
1 - Ok first off, WHICH generation of athlons, slot, socket base, Prescott core Intel Pentiums etc. IN general the Athlons run less core voltage then that of the Intel brethern. However Palomino cores (because of a long pipe line branch predicting tree, FAS support and 1.7 core voltage) did run less then that of even the barton cores.
2- Synchro Dynamic Random Access Memory
3- - Another stupid question.
4- Integrated Disk Electronics, or in current generation (exception of SATA standrard) EIDE - platform introduced by IBM to eliminate the bottlenecks of the constricted ISA bus that was originally used for devices such as Hard Drives, Optical Drives etc.
5- See above
6 - Cathode Ray Tube
7 - Base 2 Mathetmatic system that all computers are based of, in contrast to our base 10 math of numbers 0-9, Binary utilizes a base 2 mathematic scale of 0 and 1, along with the conjunction of standard IEEE form programming standard AND IF OR BUT NOR, etc.
would you laugh if you read: "there are 10 kinds of people in this world, those
well lets figure it out, pretty easy to do binary, understand once again it is a base 2 system that factors down, so each number with a designated "1" would represent that value, in orders like so....also mind you that this is a factoring scale, remember to right to left not the traditional left to right.
1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024, and therefore
and in your very old lame joke 10 would = in binary language = 0+2 = 2.
7 - Internet Protocol
8 - A "smart switch" that has the ability to direct and designate packets over a TCP/IP network - also with the capability of packet collision detection. Able to utilize varying LAN IP's to designate 1 WAN IP.
9 - Directs traffic LAN only - with packet collision technique, able to be "smart" enough to direct which pakcets should go where using redundancy techniques.
10 - same thing as switch, except sends packets out to each unit simutaneously.,
11 - Physical Network address of your NIC. Alpha numeric address designating the location of your NIC in the particular LAN network.
12 - And should I tell you? IPConfig/all for the win
13 - I have a better question, tell me when TRUE MS-Dos was introduced?
14 - Red Hat, Fedora, Unix, shall I go on?
You have to be a genius to get your CCNA/A+ don't you now a days?
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BTW - I will give you $500 to build a PC to make BF2 run smooth. If you can make it run on 1024x768 resolution - have over 80 FPS (Over the average refresh rate of a CRT/LCD Monitor) you can keep the money. It isn't going to happen. As for S3.0 that would be share 3.0 pixel technology where the vertex shaders do computation on the fly - as for 24 pipeline architecture, in correct the 7800 is not the only one out there, new ATI R520 cores do feature it as well. Should really read up before you start babbling out nonsense.
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spoolude wrote:
People think they're smart when they have an A+ certification.......you can get it out of a cracker jack box now.
You have to be a genius to get your CCNA/A+ nowadays, don't you?
i would correct you on what i feel is important... but it looks like you've just invalidated all the crap you just spewed out, effectively proving that your "knowledge" is just as worthless as mine.ati's x1800xt doesn't have 24 pipelines, i don't know who you think you're fooling.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26720by the way, you still haven't posted what your pc has for it's internals and how much you spent on it. do i sense a little intimidation?
when you do finally tell us all what you have, be very specific, i want it to hurt as much as it can. -
out there wrote:
i would correct you on what i feel is important... but it looks like you've just invalidated all the crap you just spewed out, effectively proving that your "knowledge" is just as worthless as mine.ati's x1800xt doesn't have 24 pipelines, i don't know who you think you're fooling.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26720by the way, you still haven't posted what your pc has for it's internals and how much you spent on it. do i sense a little intimidation?
when you do finally tell us all what you have, be very specific, i want it to hurt as much as it can.Check out tomshardware.com - Ati R520 core - read up buddy
as for my hardware
Athlon 64 3500 - S 939 - L2 Cache = 1mb
MSI K8n Neo Plat 2 - S939 - Nforce3 chipset
1024MB OCZ PC PC3200 DDR
Evga Geforce 7800 GTX (256 MB) - Running 81.51 Forceware Drivers
WD Raptor 36 Gig (SATA, 10k RPM) - Primary HD
Maxtor 160 Gig (Sata, 7200 RPM) - Secondary
NEC DVD+-RW (4x speed only, need to upgrade)
Samsung CD-RW 42x - Blackplate
Creative Labs Audigy 2 ZS
Antec Trueblue 430W PSUas for costs honestly I'll have to get all my receipts and calculate it out. But I did you a favor and posted under anandtech.com a thread under the forum General of - BF2 computer for under $500 - please read, your quite the comedian there
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spoolude wrote:
Check out tomshardware.com - Ati R520 core - read up buddy
you'd better back up that tomshardware.com claim with a link, because i don't see anything on that page about the x1800xt or r520. i have found several pages that say the newest ati flagship card is only 16pipelines. besides, do the math. a 16 pipeline card running at several hundred mhz faster than a 24pipeline card will put up similar numbers (think of the intel vs amd rivalry)
i also have a 3500 939, and unless you can show me a cpu-id screenshot that says it's a 1mb cache, i prefer to believe amd that it's a 512.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/K8_Electrical_Spec_Rev_ENG.pdfyour pc is not a $2k machine, and if you spent that much, you were a fool.
my newest machine:
athlon 3500, 90nm - 180
asrock agp/pci-e mb - 74
1gb 2.5 latency pc3200 - 89
160gb hdd - free when nathan upgraded
antec case and 350watt psu - 70
6600gt pci-e - 120
dvd-rw - free after installing some hardware for someone
total - 533
going to keep laughing?
i know this isn't a 500 machine, but i decided to build another 939 machine just in case i keep this one long enough to upgrade to a dual core in the future. best part about this one? it cost me nothing. i sold my old socket939 3000+ machine to upgrade to something with pci-e and a faster cpu. the socket 462 barton core xp cpu will play any game on the market, and will do it for far less than the 64bit cpu's, so i could have saved about $100 by using an older chip.why didn't i buy a 7800gtx? why should i? the 6600gt is the best card on the market when it comes to excellent performance at a good price.
once again, we come to the point where i show you that i set a goal and had a budget in mind for how much i wanted to spend, so i stuck to it. if i really wanted to build a pc to mop up yours, i could, but i would just be that much more pissed off in 6 months when i could buy everything all over again for half the price.you just keep thinking you're on top of the world because you paid top dollar... some of us realize that the human eye can't discern any significant difference between 60fps and 100
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out there wrote:
if it was really worth my time, i would acquire a copy of everquest 2 and play it to see just how horrendous the max settings at 1280x1024 (because 17" is what most people have) are and then start looking.If you really want I have a copy of it I dont play anymore... I could run it on my machine if you want to show you or you could run it on yours. Its so bad it locks my machine up which is sub par for how cheap it was.
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spoolude wrote:
I did you a favor and posted under anandtech.com a thread under the forum General of - BF2 computer for under $500 - please read, your quite the comedian there
you're just full of lies. i've been reading anandtech for a while, so i checked to see what might have been said... and (surprise) i found nothing. (searched for bf2 and 500)
link?
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lone wolf? meaning that you capture the flag alone?
how about getting through the enemy lines without dying; making your way to the objective without being seen or setting off landmines (which you can't see); setting dynamite that takes 30seconds to detonate and protecting it from being defused until it blows? there are so many variations of maps with enemy territory i couldn't hope to explain the ideas behind them all.
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