Y-94's reply....
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Joel,
Clearly you're pissed even though I was trying to be honest with you. I could have
just brushed you off, but you seemed like a nice guy with a good cause, so I tried
to help you. If you want to discuss this further, please send me your phone number
and we can discuss.Troy
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Troy,
I know you said we can discuss this over the phone, but it really needs no
discussion after this email.
My point in case is:
We asked you for help, you said no, and gave us a good resource(Thank You!), BUT...
you obviously have a preconceived notion that anyone involved with the import car
community or car community in general is involved with street racing and illegal.
There is NO WHERE on fargostreet that we regulate, condone, or sanction illegal
street racing. We support our local community drag racing strip in Sabin instead. I
have organized this toy run specifically to change the minds of people(like you)
who's head have been filled with images like "The Fast and the Furious" or "Gone in
Sixty Seconds". This is what we are trying to overcome and whether it be one by one
emails or a charity event, we would like to get the correct information about our
group to people who otherwise have no idea.
The avatars on our website are 99.9 percent other people doing stupid stuff or
other people's cars as we do not partake in activities such as "drifting" in the
middle of the street, or doing 185 miles per hour unless it is on a closed course.
We are people who love our cars, love to shine them up and personalize them the way
we want, and show people what we've done."The action of few project images for all"
While we cannot stop people(who we do not associate ourselves with) who have similar
vehicles with skewed interests, we can try show people what we REALLY do and who we
are, in hope's that eventually the police and/or society will weed out the
trouble-makers.So please do not get the wrong idea that I am pissed just trying to overcome a bad
image for a suppressed people who want to be heard.Thank you for your time,
Sorry about the misunderstanding,
Joel Witthoeft -
Joel, your response to him was a bit harsh and entirely uncalled for. A better response would have been along the following lines:
Mr. Dayton, I would like to address the concerns that you have with our website and also get some clarification as to why exactly you don't think we are a good fit for your station to cross promote with.
I would like to provide you with some information regarding what fargostreet is all about. First, you will notice that there are very few, if any, references to street racing in our forums. Yes, we have sections dedicated specifically to racing, but, if you were to look closer you would see that those sections tend to be geared towards legal racing at the track in Sabin or Autocross style events. In fact, part of the reason we wanted to do this event was to help shed the image that we are all a bunch of street racers in our "rice-mobiles".
Second, you are correct, we are a predominantly male group over here. That does not mean that we don't have female members as well (much like you have a fairly large male following, even though you are targeting women). Many of the individuals in the car scene (especially the import scene) in the Fargo-Moorhead area listen to your station when they wish to hear a local station playing rap/hip-hop.
As for the off color language, what can we say? Freedom of speech is in full force. While I understand why you feel that it may be counter productive and raise some issues with some of your listeners, I would argue that the lyrics in some of the songs played every day on the radio suggest much racier things than we talk about on here ("My Humps" by Fergie comes to mind....along with a ton of other songs)
And finally with the slang word "Owned"...it is not directly related to street racing, though some may say something along the lines of "Man, I lined up against this Talon out at the track and he owned (or pwn3d) me..." Another use may be "I was playing this video game last night on the net, and this dude just owned everybody...his skill was amazing."
I would like to thank you for hearing me out and would still very much like to work with your radio station on this matter. Please contact me at XXX-XXX-XXXX and lets see if we can discuss solutions or other options as I feel your radio station would help spread the word as well as any other station in the F-M area.
I look forward to working with you now or in the future.
Thank you.
Joel
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Joel, feel free to give Troy Dayton my phone number (make sure you tell him it is me and not you. I am willing to talk with him and see if maybe we can work something out.
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From what I can see, and this is just my opinion, Joel is trying to do something good for the kids. His idea was to show that even though people may think bad of some of us, we can still do good things in our community. He is doing it for children. He's not trying to get people to join fargostreet. Just letting them know the group of people who is bringing this event together.
Just thought I'd voice my opinion. Peace out.
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i really didn't see anyone else step up to something like this, so to get down on joel for maybe geting a lil upset at someone who was trying to " cover his ass". is dumb
and chuck you may be older but your not "always" right when it comes to being profesional. now i know you were trying to help but i think it came off in the wrong way on your end.
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I completely disagree.^
It's called being professional, even though you may not always get the deal you want. You always want to try and keep good relations with customers/coworkers/dist./companies..... and stuff like that so that you do not loose them for things that may happen in the future.
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did i ever say to "not" be proffesional? um no.
but the fact that ppl sit back and do nothing then bitch when someone says something that they think they could have done better, gets a little old.
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you reffered to chucks stuff not always being professional. His letter he put up was WAY WAY more professional then what Joel did. I am not trying to start a hipocrit battle about who did this and who did that. If you also read, chuck was not here at all during the times the emails was passed.
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