Is GOD real?
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91teggy;197919 wrote:
Exactly and catholics stand by this as other religions kind of stray from such obscene rules. I guess you could call them CRAZY.FIX.T
j/k.... catholics are strict, I love the traditions and values that they have. The only thing that bothers me is that they judge and no one should be judging other than GOD.
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91teggy;197890 wrote:
It depends on your religion if you are catholic you are going to hell for sure missing church is the same as murder. Other religions are different belief will get you by.SmitEvo;197915 wrote:
You wont go to hell for missing church...that is ludicrouswow, feel a little better i guess, still kinda confused though.
SmitEvo, you really know your shit.I believe this thread will just continue to be one big argument. No matter how hard anybody tries this argument will still continue without one person right or wrong.
This argument has not been settled even after thousands of wars, thousands of deaths, and thousands of years.
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91teggy;197916 wrote:
According to the catholic religion missing mass is the same as murder, sex before marriage, contraceptives i could go on all day but you get the point.in the same breath i had a devote catholic tell me A.)that the pope was closer to god than anybody else, and B.)we are all created equal in the eyes of god. contradictory statements?
i was researching on christian history and the sponsored link on the side of the page was for the movie golden compass. arent they the ones complaining about how the movie is anti-god?
sorry for the rambeling.
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kzrider;197921 wrote:
wow, feel a little better i guess, still kinda confused though.
SmitEvo, you really know your shit.I believe this thread will just continue to be one big argument. No matter how hard anybody tries this argument will still continue without one person right or wrong.
This argument has not been settled even after thousands of wars, thousands of deaths, and thousands of years.
QFT! You will never make everyone happy and we will continue to fight until the end of times. Everyone has to find out their own way one way or the other. Thats the tough thing about religion.
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Theres no argument here their is a GOD there is Jesus there is a Hold spirit!! try proving the bible wrong the bible is holy words. No book has stood the test of time like the bible has there is also evidence that there was a man named Jesus and that he was crucified by the romans back in the day. I just finished Teen Challenge which is a 13 month faith based treatment and just seeing and hearing god talk to you and others makes believers of all. People that were so lost in there life of drugs came to Teen Challenge and became completely new people. Ignorance is bliss
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SmitEvo;197920 wrote:
FIX.Tj/k.... catholics are strict, I love the traditions and values that they have. The only thing that bothers me is that they judge and no one should be judging other than GOD.
yeah have noticed the whole strict thing at my church. This is prolly also a sin, but alot of the diehard catholics at my church are just downright assholes. OOps i didnt say that.
But like i said earlier, i dont follow my religion strictly, and I believe in alot of the things, yet others are a little unnecessary. And I am also against the judgement thing. Nobody should judge you except for god himself. Nobody else can determine if you are worthy of heaven.
"Only god can judge me now" Tupac.
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weshole;197927 wrote:
The one thing about the "catholic" version of christianity that always got to me is that no matter how much you sinned your whole life, you could just ask for Gods forgiveness and all is forgiven. That's at least what I was taught.Not True!!!
You are granted forgiveness ONLY if you are truly sorry for the sins you committed.
I believe this is a good thing because like Used posted earlier, throughout peoples sinful life they may be changed and become a totally different person. They discover jesus and they really want his help and his forgiveness.
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Yeah, seemed to me like alot of catholics have that attitude, but i'm not sure if thats what they actually teach. Thing is, if you're really a christian, you're not supposed to have the attitude of I can do whatever I want cause i can just ask for forgiveness. If you are really a christian and believe in God, and are truely following him and letting him lead your life, you should WANT to do what the bible teaches because it will make God happy. This is part of what the bible refers to as the fear(a healthy respect) of God.
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I think the number one threat to "Religion" is the "Church". If you actually sat down and looked at it, many things the Church/high religious authorities do or say are contradictory to God's word. Any church that hates homosexuals or anything like that is a hypocritical institution I believe. If they TRUELY followed God's word they'd leave the judgments to him and do everything they could to help people follow God and be saved.
I think this is a big reason there is a fairly strong anti-religion movement lately. The church is becoming oppressive again it seems and is really doing a good job at turning people away from morality and anything even remotely religious in nature. Pretty sad if you ask me...
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Used;197924 wrote:
Theres no argument here their is a GOD there is Jesus there is a Hold spirit!! try proving the bible wrong the bible is holy words. No book has stood the test of time like the bible has there is also evidence that there was a man named Jesus and that he was crucified by the romans back in the day. I just finished Teen Challenge which is a 13 month faith based treatment and just seeing and hearing god talk to you and others makes believers of all. People that were so lost in there life of drugs came to Teen Challenge and became completely new people. Ignorance is blissHow come you are so lucky that god talks to you i have to study up for 13 months to get that priviledge.
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StangerBanger96;197930 wrote:
I think the number one threat to "Religion" is the "Church". If you actually sat down and looked at it, many things the Church/high religious authorities do or say are contradictory to God's word. Any church that hates homosexuals or anything like that is a hypocritical institution I believe. If they TRUELY followed God's word they'd leave the judgments to him and do everything they could to help people follow God and be saved.I think this is a big reason there is a fairly strong anti-religion movement lately. The church is becoming oppressive again it seems and is really doing a good job at turning people away from morality and anything even remotely religious in nature. Pretty sad if you ask me...
I agree very strongly here, thats why there is different christian beliefs they basically believe the same thing but corruption and stupid shit has split people and cause turmoil for hundreds of years.
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Used;197924 wrote:
Theres no argument here their is a GOD there is Jesus there is a Hold spirit!! try proving the bible wrong the bible is holy words. No book has stood the test of time like the bible has there is also evidence that there was a man named Jesus and that he was crucified by the romans back in the day. I just finished Teen Challenge which is a 13 month faith based treatment and just seeing and hearing god talk to you and others makes believers of all. People that were so lost in there life of drugs came to Teen Challenge and became completely new people. Ignorance is blissSounds like all the celebrities that "find God" once they've fucked up their reputation someway and need to get back in the good graces of the people that make them their millions.
Completely new people, till they're caught with a pound of coke up thier nose, and 3 hookers on their johnson.
Bah.
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My roomate is catholic. He sits here and is like I won't do that because I am catholic.... and then just does something, that I personally would think is just as bad. He feels the same way about his friends from school(a catholic school) and often reffers to them as good catholic kids, even though the storys I have heard do not consider them so "good." If you understand what I am saying.
I do believe in a God or a Supreme being who created the universe and everthing in it. But, I do not think that not going to church every sunday, saying a bad word, and stuff like that is the fine line of going to heaven or hell.
Age of the world... I can not quote the exact part, but in the bible it says something along the lines of 1 second in Gods eyes is equal to 10,000 years in humans eyes. Or something like that.
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Oh, and any of the religious types on here. feel free to explain the actions of all the priests that like to fuck little boys.
Those religious "leaders", the ones you may be listening to every Sunday, are child molesters. It could be your pastor.
Let me guess, as long as they are truly sorry, they'll go to "heaven".
If that's true, I don't wanna go there(a place that accepts child molesters).
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2wheeler;197936 wrote:
Oh, and any of the religious types on here. feel free to explain the actions of all the priests that like to fuck little boys.Those religious "leaders", the ones you may be listening to every Sunday, are child molesters. It could be your pastor.
Let me guess, as long as they are truly sorry, they'll go to "heaven".
If that's true, I don't wanna go there(a place that accepts child molesters).
It's people like this that give Religion or religious people a bad image. It's the same as someone putting on a Laker's Jersey and murdering people...does that mean the Laker's support murder? No, but I still say I'm doing it in their name and it gives them a bad rep after awhile.
Same thing these priests or any fanatic do for Religion, they tarnish its true meaning by making foolish acts "in the name of" it.
What's worse is that people go along with them and blame the entire institution rather than the radicals...
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