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  • bubbaB Offline
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    bubba
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    thrash;212636 wrote:
    i didn't want to participate in such a stupid thread, but Ferrari engines are actually on the small side. The F348 was a 3.4L V8, the 355 was a 3.5L V8, the 360 a 3.6 L V8, and the new F430 a ... wait for it... 4.3L V8.

    I don't know of any US market V8s that are 4.3 liters or fewer.

    That's what I was gonna bring up, they might have v8 and v12 engines, but they dont have much of a displacement....

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    • wesholeW Offline
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      thrash;212636 wrote:
      i didn't want to participate in such a stupid thread, but Ferrari engines are actually on the small side. The F348 was a 3.4L V8, the 355 was a 3.5L V8, the 360 a 3.6 L V8, and the new F430 a ... wait for it... 4.3L V8.

      I don't know of any US market V8s that are 4.3 liters or fewer.

      A 4.3 V8 is still a helluva lot more displacement than a 1.6L 4cyl. Oh, and there is plenty of "American" market V8's with 4.3L or less.... Acura has a 4.3 Lexus has a 4.0, Lincoln LS has a 3.9 V8.

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        All other things being equal, larger displacement wins every time in a power contest....however, I'd still love to get my hands on one of these http://www.radicalsportscars.com/news_folder/dvd2005/sr8.php and yeah...it's street legal....and smallish displacement.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Sportscars

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          DelSlow;212534 wrote:
          damn, the key to this thread is to simply just not post anything and let it die. Giving him attention will only make it worse.

          I see DelSlow has graced us with his presence.

          JohnW;212579 wrote:
          personally i think it's amazing what honda has done with small displacement engines, however a WS6 Firechicken gets my pants small... until I remember that GM lets retahded jimmy from the group home work with mrs. pullwieners third grade class to design all their interiors from left over chinese knock off fisher price toy plastic.

          ROFL!

          FASTER THAN DUBBSY

          > thrash;315544 wrote:
          > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
          >
          > Ford is back :)

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            I think I found it.

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              thrash
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              Actual top fuel cars are spendier and faster than jet powered dragsters

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                thrash
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                weshole;212648 wrote:
                A 4.3 V8 is still a helluva lot more displacement than a 1.6L 4cyl. Oh, and there is plenty of "American" market V8's with 4.3L or less.... Acura has a 4.3 Lexus has a 4.0, Lincoln LS has a 3.9 V8.

                Acura and Lexus aren't US makes, they're US brands of foreign engineering. I was not familiar with the Lincoln 3.9 (or the Olds 4.0) so I stand corrected.

                The point was that Ferrari engines make excellent and often superior power using much lower displacement than US engined counterparts, even with natural aspiration. That's how ferrari likes to do things and it's part of what makes a Ferrari drive and sound like a Ferrari instead of a Chevelle. (That and Ferrari V8s are flat-plane cranks unlike US V8s)

                Anyway, the original contention in the thread is trollbait and everyone knows it. Stop playing along 🙂

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                  Displacement isn't squat without a good cylinder head and cam. Ferrari, etc use smaller cube motors because they do their homework on the heads and cams (or pay someone to do their homework). 😛

                  DaveH
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                    ^ agreed. they may have v8 and v10 but they are generally very small displacement.

                    and to keep it stirring 97 cubic inches with hot nasty v-attack pwns all n00bs with v8s BTW

                    here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
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                    • ParkerP Offline
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                      zbrown;212619 wrote:
                      Spray is for fags..........;)

                      boost it and be done with it 🙂
                      ok... when your done with your lil 4.8 build.... lets line them up.... yours boosted and mine on spray.... we'll see how it goes....

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                        KA-T_240;212543 wrote:
                        turbo!!!!!!!

                        but a nice big turbo V8 owns all

                        Or TWIN turbo V-8

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                          XJHEAD;212717 wrote:
                          Or TWIN turbo V-8

                          that'll still run mid 10s. 🙂

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                            Parker
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                            grip

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                            • kzriderK Offline
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                              kzrider
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                              you are all acting like a bunch of punk ass kids! Hey wana race cause my car is fast!

                              American small cube V8- A.K.A. lil northstar 4.0L

                              This can be argued all day long. Wow, Shep's talon is faster than that guys 572 vega. Or Force's funny car is faster than that honda. Anything can be made fast with $$$$ and technology.

                              In my mind displacement ftw. U can boost ur honda, I can do the same with a V8. Its a very simple concept.

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                                :icon_scratch:> dubbsy;212723 wrote:

                                that'll still run mid 10s. 🙂

                                Nope, last I checked was still low 11's

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                                  GoldyHatchPSI
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                                  kzrider;212739 wrote:
                                  you are all acting like a bunch of punk ass kids! Hey wana race cause my car is fast!

                                  American small cube V8- A.K.A. lil northstar 4.0L

                                  This can be argued all day long. Wow, Shep's talon is faster than that guys 572 vega. Or Force's funny car is faster than that honda. Anything can be made fast with $$$$ and technology.

                                  In my mind displacement ftw. U can boost ur honda, I can do the same with a V8. Its a very simple concept.

                                  Yeah but you're comparing oranges to apples. It's not even fair in the first place.

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                                    MisterCMK;212493 wrote:
                                    There is no replacement for displacement.

                                    Discuss.

                                    I agree so much, that I am doing the "more cylinders" mod.

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                                        Parker
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                                        GoldyHatchPSI;212750 wrote:
                                        Yeah but you're comparing oranges to apples. It's not even fair in the first place.
                                        thats why were arguing displacement... if you want to compare apples to oranges..... go to a grocery store....

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                                          The more cubic inches your engine has the more potential it has to build power. Its simple physics, you cant cram as much air and fuel into a 1.6 liter container as you can into a 5.7 liter one. No matter how much compressed air (read forced induction) you put in it won't balance. Sure a turbo 1.6 might make more power than a stock 350, this is where the technology comes in, due to the design of the heads, the cam profiles, flow rates of both the intake and exhaust etc. All of that factors in but if you make the 350 as efficient as the 1.6 it will make far and away more power. I would think that would be obvious to anyone when you look at what is on a race track, just about anywhere, and the fastest cars are using engine technology that has its roots in the 1950's, possibly even farther back. You can call out all the things that have changed with engines in the last five decades, but look at what has not changed.

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