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  • MisterCMKM Offline
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    MisterCMK
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    #53

    Shut up torbs.

    FASTER THAN DUBBSY

    > thrash;315544 wrote:
    > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
    >
    > Ford is back :)

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    • ParkerP Offline
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      Parker
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      • ParkerP Offline
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        Parker
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        #55

        zbrown;212848 wrote:
        fully forged vs stock longblock.......... that is apples to oranges if anything

        lol whats the point....... even just 600 wheel in these cars with an auto is a solid 9 second car

        the smaller cube LSx's have done that on stock long blocks for sustained periods with out popping

        cant we just be friends now?? how about if i change my avatar to something more fitting?? 😉
        ok... if you change you avatar and sig.... we can be friends

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          thrash
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          • beachbum_jonB Offline
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            beachbum_jon
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            #57

            the way i see it. as long as its fast who gives a fuck.

            yeah sure the rumble of a cammed v8 is pretty sweet
            but so is the high revingness of a built 4cyl.
            but at the end of the day, its who makes it down the end of the track fastest is all that matters

            oh btw my 3406 cat or n14 cummins or 60 series detroit > your 350 > your d16blablab16blabla honda

            "None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe they are free"

            • Johann Wolfgang vonGoethe, 1749-1832-

            "There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One by the sword. The other is by debt."
            -John Adams, 1735-1826-

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            • kzriderK Offline
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              kzrider
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              #58

              beachbum_jon;212940 wrote:
              the way i see it. as long as its fast who gives a fuck.

              yeah sure the rumble of a cammed v8 is pretty sweet
              but so is the high revingness of a built 4cyl.
              but at the end of the day, its who makes it down the end of the track fastest is all that matters

              oh btw my 3406 cat or n14 cummins or 60 series detroit > your 350 > your d16blablab16blabla honda

              Cant we all just get along!!!
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              haha, anyways

              Torbs, shut up, wow another supra making over 1000 hp. Wooohooo! (Although an impresive accomplishment by the owner). This is what we are talking about when we describe a person who thinks hands down one motor is better than all the others. With nearly any motor the possibilities are endless

              Another thing, Fuck supercars.

              and last but not least, "YOU CAN ADD APPLES TO ORANGES IF YOUR UNIT OF MEASURE IS FRUIT"

              Sinister Racing
              Free will, Free ride, Free style

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              • K Offline
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                KA-T_240
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                #59

                3406 cat or n14 cummins or 60 series detroit

                at torque, and nothing else.

                PM me for:
                Sandblasting(I use glass beads)
                Diesel repairs or performance products.

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                • beachbum_jonB Offline
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                  beachbum_jon
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                  ^^what else is there?

                  "None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe they are free"

                  • Johann Wolfgang vonGoethe, 1749-1832-

                  "There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One by the sword. The other is by debt."
                  -John Adams, 1735-1826-

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                  • ParkerP Offline
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                    Parker
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                    #61

                    revving ability?

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                      torbs;212904 wrote:
                      Also, I'm sure Dave has less $$$ put into his car when it's finished than a new Ferrari costs...

                      Dave, being the master of the good deal that he is, is probably getting paid to build his car...not because he's sponsored (he's not...well no MAJOR sponsors) but because he is DaveH and is a God on SupraForums so people sacrifice parts to the NA-T God in hopes that he will grace them with his knowledge. It's true.

                      (I should start a wikipedia page about this so i'd have a reference to point to.)

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                      • beachbum_jonB Offline
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                        beachbum_jon
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                        #63

                        id still rather have any of the above motors that i posted than any 4cyl honda, but thats just my opinion. and everyone is entitled to their own opinion and it shouldnt really matter wha anyone else thinks about your setup, mainly because its YOUR setup and not theirs.

                        "None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe they are free"

                        • Johann Wolfgang vonGoethe, 1749-1832-

                        "There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One by the sword. The other is by debt."
                        -John Adams, 1735-1826-

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                        • MisterCMKM Offline
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                          MisterCMK
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #64

                          Dave graced me with allowing me to purchase a heater from him

                          Dave FTW

                          FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                          > thrash;315544 wrote:
                          > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                          >
                          > Ford is back :)

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                            GoldyHatchPSI
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                            This thread is pointless

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                            • DaveHD Offline
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                              DaveH
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                              I am Chuck Norris after all....

                              FWIW, the engine in the red car was stock as was the engine in Matts Probe the last couple years. The engine in my black car has aftermarket rods and pistons, as does the engine Matt is building for this year.

                              DaveH
                              '94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph

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                              • RaiderR Offline
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                                Raider
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                                I personally perfer more displacement myself....I like the instant tq...nothing like having 300+ft/tq by 2500rpms

                                POWERD BY

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                                  zbrown
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                                  Raider;213038 wrote:
                                  I personally perfer more displacement myself....I like the instant tq...nothing like having 300+ft/tq by 2500rpms

                                  cept a cummins making 600 by 2k???

                                  speaking of jet/gas turbine engines........... I may way off base but i think i remember reading this somewhere

                                  Don't they make insane ##'s for TO?? I mean their HP # is dwarfed by the TO #??

                                  thought so anyway

                                  rx7-8.89@157mph
                                  12v dodge, twins

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                                  • ErikE Offline
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                                    Erik
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                                    #69

                                    If there is no replacement for displacement, how do things like this happen:

                                    1988 Camaro RS. 5.0 L, 170 hp

                                    1989 CRX SiR - 1.6 L, 160 hp

                                    One year apart. 3.4 L. 10 hp.

                                    You're right. No replacement for displacement.

                                    And I would've gone further back in time but I had no resources for those old 1920's-30's v12's that made like 50 hp.

                                    They call me, old man...

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                                    • kzriderK Offline
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                                      kzrider
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                                      #70

                                      KidSupreme;213127 wrote:
                                      If there is no replacement for displacement, how do things like this happen:

                                      1988 Camaro RS. 5.0 L, 170 hp

                                      1989 CRX SiR - 1.6 L, 160 hp

                                      One year apart. 3.4 L. 10 hp.

                                      You're right. No replacement for displacement.

                                      And I would've gone further back in time but I had no resources for those old 1920's-30's v12's that made like 50 hp.

                                      1988 Camaro RS. V-8 5.0L (305CI) 4 Barrel Carb 170HP@4400 and 250Ft/lbs@2800

                                      1989 crx SiR - 112 @ 7100

                                      Wow only 1 year apart 3.4 L 138 Ft/lbs

                                      No replacement for displacement. and BTW, next time you make a comparison between two vehicles you could probably use the top package for BOTH vehicles. You chose the lowest 5.0l motor option that gm offered. Lets try this comparison again evenly.

                                      Low Package Comparison:
                                      1988 Camaro RS. 5.0 L, 170 hp 250 ft/lbs

                                      1989 crx sohc 8 valve - 62hp, 90ft/lbs

                                      High package comparison:
                                      1988 Camaro Z28 5.0L, 220hp 290 ft/lbs

                                      1989 CRX SiR - 1.6 L, 160 hp

                                      Displacement ftw, ....again :owned:

                                      Sinister Racing
                                      Free will, Free ride, Free style

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                                      • ErikE Offline
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                                        Erik
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                                        #71

                                        God that Camaro would be so good at towing my boat.

                                        The argument was, "no replacement for displacement"

                                        But reguardless of model trim, no one can deny there are replacements for displacements. Whether it be technology, forced induction, or nitrous. That's why they're popular and work in the real world.

                                        EDIT: found one:

                                        The original 448 in³ (7.3 L) Lincoln V12 was used in the large Model KB line for 1932 and 1933. It produced 150 hp (112 kW) and was an unusual 65° L-head design

                                        Mind Blowing.

                                        2ND EDIT:
                                        I bet someone responds to this with something about torque

                                        They call me, old man...

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                                        • ParkerP Offline
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                                          Parker
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                                          #72

                                          it made torque

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