2008 Minnesota Vikings thread
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bench tjack again and they wouldve won
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dun dun....dundundundundun....GO pACK GO
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PSiedTSi;252857 wrote:
Explain.he was playing scared, he cant handle the pressure... he would throw the ball to a guy 2 yards ahead of him and he'd be tackled within seconds, 1 good play out of 10 isnt very good. Vikings defense almost won the game for them. If it wasnt for Shiancoes ability to stretch and jump to catch his shitty throws they wouldve gotten spanked.
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RidinRails;252900 wrote:
he was playing scared, he cant handle the pressure... he would throw the ball to a guy 2 yards ahead of him and he'd be tackled within seconds, 1 good play out of 10 isnt very good. Vikings defense almost won the game for them. If it wasnt for Shiancoes ability to stretch and jump to catch his shitty throws they wouldve gotten spanked.did you watch the game. they lost because they fumbled 5 times. t-jack was playing awesome. even the last throw was right in the recievers hands, but he was held up by the defender. shit he was like 9 for 10 on passes in the first half.
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Shitty throws? Most of those "shitty" throws are exactly what separates an NFL QB from all others. Today he showed the ability to put the ball where he needed. Not every throw will be on the numbers, and the game doesn't require that. In the 4th quarter, he got a little happy feet in the pocket, but they failed to change the scheme for Abraham being able to pin his ears back and rush the passer. The let him be singled up with RYAN COOK. Am I the only one that seems something wrong with that situation? Jackson was getting hit, and was still able to make BIG plays with his feet in most of those situations. I don't care if Jackson was perfect in this game or not, but I will say that if Gus played that game, he would have been eaten alive with his inability to move in or outside the pocket. Bottomline, Jackson was the least of our worries in that game. If anything, he was one of the major bright spots in a game we'd rather forget.
By the way, those catches Shiancoe made are catches that should be made by NFL Tight Ends.
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so he made 3 good passes and ran the ball good 3 times? but fumbled twice, missed 1 snap, and threw 20 other horrible passes...hmmm
There was a reason he was benched after the second game, and today he showed those skills again.
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Ha! I can't believe that Tomorrow I'll be rooting for the PACKERS!
A team I woudl never hope to see win, I am hoping will win tomorrow.
Weird, huh?
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RidinRails;252904 wrote:
so he made 3 good passes and ran the ball good 3 times? but fumbled twice, missed 1 snap, and threw 20 other horrible passes...hmmmThere was a reason he was benched after the second game, and today he showed those skills again.
I'm confused...did you watch the game? He fumbled once, which ended up being a very odd play, the other was NOT his fault, but by stats it is his fumble. It is up to the back in that situation to secure the ball. It was exactly where it was supposed to be, AP was just concentrating on hitting the hole and never got a feel for the ball. He threw more than 3 "good passes", and didn't throw 20 "horrible passes", considering the fact he didn't even throw 20 incompletions, half of which were him being smart and throwing the ball away.
To compare him to the first 2 weeks, is outrageous. What else do you want the guy to do for us? He more than managed the game, not to mention him having a QB rating of 98.5 for this game. If there is any single person that may have cost us the game today, it was AP. He has been less than reliable for ball security lately, and I think now we should start to be concerned. He has been warned specifically that his fumble could prevent us from reaching the playoffs, much like it did today. If Jackson can have games like today in the playoffs, and we don't shoot ourselves in the foot, we should be a pretty tough team. If we weren't a good team, we wouldn't have been within 7 points after the game we played...
Like I said before, He didn't lose the game for us.
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To defend TJack, his son had a pacemaker put in the when he was starting earllier this year, I doubt his mind was clearly focussed on football. Now we hear his sons doing fine, and you can clearly see how much more comfortable he is in the pocket.
I wish he'd use Berrian more. Rice can't be found with a serach light, but he wasn't really tearing it up with Frerotte either.
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BlueSRT0483;252905 wrote:
Ha! I can't believe that Tomorrow I'll be rooting for the PACKERS!A team I woudl never hope to see win, I am hoping will win tomorrow.
Weird, huh?
it is fucked up cause ill be doing the same, and TJ had been doing a great job....the last play for MN was horse shit they should have ruled that a holding. D-bag refs.
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RidinRails;252904 wrote:
so he made 3 good passes and ran the ball good 3 times? but fumbled twice, missed 1 snap, and threw 20 other horrible passes...hmmmThere was a reason he was benched after the second game, and today he showed those skills again.
I'm certainly not sold on TJack but you must be out of your mind.
What was with the crowd yesterday? I've never haerd the dome so quiet for a big game. It was pathetic.
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Go BEARS!!! (it really pains me to say that)
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PSiedTSi;252906 wrote:
I'm confused...did you watch the game? He fumbled once, which ended up being a very odd play, the other was NOT his fault, but by stats it is his fumble. It is up to the back in that situation to secure the ball. It was exactly where it was supposed to be, AP was just concentrating on hitting the hole and never got a feel for the ball. He threw more than 3 "good passes", and didn't throw 20 "horrible passes", considering the fact he didn't even throw 20 incompletions, half of which were him being smart and throwing the ball away.To compare him to the first 2 weeks, is outrageous. What else do you want the guy to do for us? He more than managed the game, not to mention him having a QB rating of 98.5 for this game. If there is any single person that may have cost us the game today, it was AP. He has been less than reliable for ball security lately, and I think now we should start to be concerned. He has been warned specifically that his fumble could prevent us from reaching the playoffs, much like it did today. If Jackson can have games like today in the playoffs, and we don't shoot ourselves in the foot, we should be a pretty tough team. If we weren't a good team, we wouldn't have been within 7 points after the game we played...
Like I said before, He didn't lose the game for us.
Did i watch? Yes, he fumbled twice, the miss snap was his fault also, i didnt realize you were doing the statistics for the vikings:icon_scratch:, so the threw what maybe 5 good passes and the rest werent very good. You obviously didnt play much football, a good pass comes to you, you dont jump, stretch, dive for IT.
But your right, Tjack is obviously the best QB in the league, he gets scared and throws 2 yard passes to a guy who's covered by 3 guys and gets hit as soon as he catches the ball.
hmm lets check tjacks record....now lets see ferrottes record? who has more wins?
Like i said before, theres a reason he was benched after the second game. -
HandoEX;252941 wrote:
Didn't Birk say it was his fault?Here is the story:
THE WEIRD SHOTGUN SNAP
There was another play that didn't result in a turnover but was a big error. With 6:51 left in the third quarter, Jackson was lined up in a shotgun formation on third and 9 at the Minnesota 33. Birk snapped the ball to him, but it went flying by Jackson's left ear.
Jackson recovered at the Minnesota 11, and the Vikings were forced to punt. The Falcons got the ball back at their 49, and they were able to go down and score after Ryan was upended, fumbled and the Falcons recovered the ball in the end zone for a 24-7 lead with 2:38 left in the third quarter.
"He (Jackson) wasn't ready for it," Birk said of the shotgun snap.
Said Childress: "They (the Falcons) were lined up in a zero blitz, and he (Birk) was trying to re-identify the (middle linebacker), and Tarvaris was looking in the back end to see what he was going to get versus the blitz pressure. Matt hiked it back, and Tarvaris didn't get his eyes back on the center."
Jackson said he and Birk miscommunicated on the play.
"We got to do a better job of getting on the same page," Jackson said. "He was ready. I wasn't ready."
That was the fourth consecutive offensive series for the Vikings in which they fumbled.
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