So anyone voting for the yes no yes?
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ok. I skimmed through most of that but IN MY OPINION..... If you are a non-smoker and want to go out then go to an establishment where smoking is not allowed (like minnesota). Bottom line smokers have just as many rights as non-smokers. Whether non-smokers are willing to admit it or not. I personally smoke but I also have enough respect as where if someone asks me not to smoke around them I wont. But when I go out to the bars to have a good time I want to smoke and have a good time.
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iluvracing;221838 wrote:
ok. I skimmed through most of that but IN MY OPINION..... If you are a non-smoker and want to go out then go to an establishment where smoking is not allowed (like minnesota). Bottom line smokers have just as many rights as non-smokers. Whether non-smokers are willing to admit it or not. I personally smoke but I also have enough respect as where if someone asks me not to smoke around them I wont. But when I go out to the bars to have a good time I want to smoke and have a good time.
end rant/Do you have health insurance?
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What an epic battle that has occurred throughout this thread. Truly one for the ages.
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I'm not arguing anything. I'm just saying it's b.s. for people to piss and moan about this. If you don't like it then go somewhere else. And yes I have health insurance and I would like to quit. THAT'S NOT THE POINT. It's the right
Also.... This was once a FREE country. that is changing very quickly
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iluvracing;221842 wrote:
I'm not arguing anything. I'm just saying it's b.s. for people to piss and moan about this. If you don't like it then go somewhere else. And yes I have health insurance and I would like to quit. THAT'S NOT THE POINT. It's the rightWell, since health insurance is pooled money and smoking greatly increases your risk of numerous diseases and cancers, I'd say your decision to smoke affects a lot more people than just you -- namely anyone within your insurance group and immediate taxpayers.
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i agree. I'm talking about smokers rights. whether I smoke or not I think smokers should be able to go somewhere where they can smoke and have a good time like everyone else. I personally think smoking is retarded and I personally dont mind going outside. I just get irritated with people that think that EVERY PLACE should be smoke free. I don't mind going outside... THAT'S NOT MY POINT
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Well what is your point exactly then? I mean, you just said a behavior you exhibit is retarded and that you don't mind going outside to smoke. What are you complaining about?
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I'm very disappointed in the end result. As I'm 17 going on 18 (or so)...smoking gets banned in most public places...less than 4 months before i turn 21, its banned in bars...
What I truely want to know is the opinions of all bar-goers, not the opinion of the entire city. What city's opinion, IMO, is skewed in the fact that the opinions of people that are not effected at all are included...But, voting is voting and ya can't change it...Even though I expect a petition by bars if at all possible. I'd be willing to bet the majority of bar-goers and employees were not for the ban.
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the fact that its a right and you are bitching saying it's not. (that's how I am taking it)
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very correct. BUT it is legal that's the point. In that case they will eventually make illegal...??
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torbs;221847 wrote:
I'm very disappointed in the end result. As I'm 17 going on 18 (or so)...smoking gets banned in most public places...less than 4 months before i turn 21, its banned in bars...Ain't that a bitch? Something came to a public vote and it didn't come out in the favor of some people. Since we all know that society evolves, perhaps the next step (a LONG way in the future) is an all out banning of tobacco sales. I support it morally, but from a "your body is your temple" standpoint, I am against it....
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Whether smoking is a right or a privilege, it IS my RIGHT to breath clean air everywhere that I go. If you want to pollute the air around you, go do it elsewhere.
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no offence. but seriously there are PLENTY of places that do not allow smoking. why not go there???? Like I stated I personally do not mind going outside (as a smoker) But I just think there are plenty of places that allow and don't allow smoking where there shouldn't be a problem.
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iluvracing;221853 wrote:
no offence. but seriously there are PLENTY of places that do not allow smoking. why not go there????Name one that has the atmosphere of The Hub, Mr. G's, Bucks, OB, etc...
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anywhere in Moorhead! hmmmmm.???? that's a few huh? seriously dude not trying to be a dick but it's across a river, not 100 miles. right?
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iluvracing;221855 wrote:
anywhere in Moorhead! hmmmmm.???? that's a few huh? seriously dude not trying to be a dick but it's across a river, not 100 miles. right?Not a one bar in Moorhead compares to the ones I listed.
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Nothing like playing blackjack and someone sits down next to you and immediately lights up a cigarette.
Happy this vote passed.
Go stand outside and smoke.
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iluvracing;221848 wrote:
the fact that its a right and you are bitching saying it's not. (that's how I am taking it)Lol, I'm glad Torbs got to this statement before I did. I'm not "bitching" about smoking as a right since, as Torbs indicated, it is definitely not a right.
Lol again.
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