Bike Accident on 25th
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reshalghoul;236067 wrote:
I don't know, it doesn't seem very high-IQish to give a 15-year-old, inexperienced driver a 5,500 pound vehicle.IDK about that, my choice will be to give my kids a tank for this very same reason.... Guaranteed, it won't be an Escalade
Something like this maybe, about 7800 lbs

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Just give her your 1300 hp beast. I mean, that's totally an excellent idea.
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Parker wrote:
i wonder if the people he passed while riding a wheelie said in their mind, " i hope he crashes"?
STiSchucky;236063 wrote:
I saw a guy doing a wheelie on his bike down 29 this summer, one of the first thing that popped into my mind was that.Why would you ever wish that upon anyone?!!? What if it were you?? Or someone you knew?? You sound like horrible people when you say you hope people crash. I can understand if they're doing something unbelievably stupid, but a wheelie?? C'mon! We've all seen people do them I'm sure, and the main person they're putting in danger is themself
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STiSchucky;236063 wrote:
I saw a guy doing a wheelie on his bike down 29 this summer, one of the first thing that popped into my mind was that.reshalghoul;236068 wrote:
What?!!? A dissenting opinion? The biker may not have been totally 100% at fault? Fuck that! It's always those crazy, stupid bikers.He should've been wearing a helmet tho. -1 For that.
Oh yeah, I forgot. It's always the bikers fault! F**k that!! :mad: People are so damn stereotypical these days it's disgusting! Yeah, he should have been wearing a helmet, but that was a choice he made. Most people you see riding in town, in fact, don't wear helmets. BUT, because of his choice, there's still no reason people should say he deserved it, and that it was all his fault.
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TwistedAngel;236073 wrote:
Why would you ever wish that upon anyone?!!? What if it were you?? Or someone you knew?? You sound like horrible people when you say you hope people crash. I can understand if they're doing something unbelievably stupid, but a wheelie?? C'mon! We've all seen people do them I'm sure, and the main person they're putting in danger is themself
Oh i dont know, maybe cause if I got rear ended by a biker doing wheelies,standing on his bike showing off, and I get injured cause of it...i'd be pretty pissed off, wouldnt you be? Or is it my fault cause Im at the wrong place at the wrong time and I should let the guy who drives wrecklessly in traffic do his thing? -
TwistedAngel;236076 wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot. It's always the bikers fault! F**k that!! :mad: People are so damn stereotypical these days it's disgusting! Yeah, he should have been wearing a helmet, but that was a choice he made. Most people you see riding in town, in fact, don't wear helmets. BUT, because of his choice, there's still no reason people should say he deserved it, and that it was all his fault.
The fuck does a helmet have to do with decision making, speeding, and wheelies.I dont know if youve ever been down 25th st., especially at 6 oclock at night...but its pretty packed
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reshalghoul;236045 wrote:
Who the hell gives their 15-year-old daughter a fucking Escalade?First of all, what does this have to do with anything? Nice try at straying off-topic.
Second, how do you know it was hers? Are you telling me that nobody has driven their parent's vehicles?
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TwistedAngel;236076 wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot. It's always the bikers fault! F**k that!! :mad: People are so damn stereotypical these days it's disgusting! Yeah, he should have been wearing a helmet, but that was a choice he made. Most people you see riding in town, in fact, don't wear helmets. BUT, because of his choice, there's still no reason people should say he deserved it, and that it was all his fault.It is never the bikers fault because we all know that the majority of motorcycle riders obey traffic laws and ride defensively.
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STiSchucky;236078 wrote:
Oh i dont know, maybe cause if I got rear ended by a biker doing wheelies,standing on his bike showing off, and I get injured cause of it...i'd be pretty pissed off, wouldnt you be? Or is it my fault cause Im at the wrong place at the wrong time and I should let the guy who drives wrecklessly in traffic do his thing?Yeah, I get it. But what I was trying to say is that the person they're really putting in danger is them self. Car vs. bike...bike will most likely lose 100% of the time. It sucks that they don't think of anybody but themselves at the time, but there's nothing we can really do about it.
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TwistedAngel;236085 wrote:
But what I was trying to say is that the person they're really putting in danger is them self.
You can't be serious! Just because this time it was a 6000lb SUV doesn't mean that it couldn't be someone on a bike or walking next time! -
MisterCMK;236082 wrote:
It is never the bikers fault because we all know that the majority of motorcycle riders obey traffic laws and ride defensively.If you're being sarcastic, that's not what I'm saying. It just gets so damn old hearing people bash motorcyclists because some decide to drive like idiots. Do you know how many people don't see bikes coming down the street? Too many. Riders do have to drive defensively because of all of the drivers that decide to not take the time to check their mirrors and look around.
This guy for instance. What if he had never done a wheelie? Would people still be making such a fuss over the issue? Probably not. Whether he was on one wheel or two, the girl pulled out in front of him because she did not look before she pulled out into the road. That, or because she's an inexperienced driver, she couldn't judge how fast he was going and thought she had time to get across the road. I don't know how many times I have seen this happen or have had it done to me. -
I think the bottom line is that EVERYONE needs to be more careful. Obviously, a bike is not going to win if it hits any car, regardless of how much it weighs. If the issue is that she was 15, well she had a driver's license. Maybe they need to up the age to get a license. We all need to watch for motorcycles and motorcyclists need to take their own precautions (which includes a helmet). It's too bad shit like this happens.
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HandoEX;236086 wrote:
You can't be serious! Just because this time it was a 6000lb SUV doesn't mean that it couldn't be someone on a bike or walking next time!You all keep changing the damn situation. Who the hell walks in front of a bike doing a God damn wheelie for one?!? If you do...you're kind of asking for something bad to happen to you aren't you? Yeah, the bikers probably stupid for doing the wheelie, but you're probably even more stupid if you put yourself in front of it. It all comes down to paying attention to the situation around you. For BOTH parties.
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00accord;236092 wrote:
i think the bottom line is that everyone needs to be more careful. Obviously, a bike is not going to win if it hits any car, regardless of how much it weighs. If the issue is that she was 15, well she had a driver's license. Maybe they need to up the age to get a license. We all need to watch for motorcycles and motorcyclists need to take their own precautions (which includes a helmet). It's too bad shit like this happens.i agree
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TwistedAngel;236090 wrote:
I Whether he was on one wheel or two, the girl pulled out in front of him because she did not look before she pulled out into the road. That, or because she's an inexperienced driver, she couldn't judge how fast he was going and thought she had time to get across the road.Hmm or explanation C...
He was going double the posted speed limit.... and she pulled out when he was a half a block away
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TwistedAngel;236094 wrote:
You all keep changing the damn situation. Who the hell walks in front of a bike doing a God damn wheelie for one?!? If you do...you're kind of asking for something bad to happen to you aren't you? Yeah, the bikers probably stupid for doing the wheelie, but you're probably even more stupid if you put yourself in front of it. It all comes down to paying attention to the situation around you. For BOTH parties.I didn't change shit. You said the only person put in danger when a biker rides a wheelie is himself and that is ridiculous.
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im sure we all know that intersection is a pain in the ass to make a left on. the girl was 15, with a friend which shows an inepxerianced driver with distractions on top of it. was the biker doing something reckless? yes we don't know how fast he was going yet and more then likely what happened was that the girl didn't see him or from lack of experience pulled out thinking she could make it. If i saw a bike doing a wheelie i wouldn't think to try and pull out in front and i highly doubt the biker would attempt a wheelie if he saw her pulling out.
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If he was going double the speed limit, it's his fault, but you can't tell me you wouldn't notice if someone was going that fast. So...if she saw that he was going that fast and pulled out in front of him anyways...they're both at fault. And if the road is as busy at that time as someone mentioned, how would he have had the chance to speed that much?
I never said a biker ONLY puts himself in danger when he rides a wheelie. I just said they are the main person in danger because they're usually up against bigger vehicles. Yes, I suppose someone walking or riding a bike could get involved, but the chances are slim. If it were to happen, I'm sure the biker would pay the consequences.
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