2009 TM P10 Nightshift Style?

[no_slow_clap]

BomexE;243936 wrote:
i do feel that people will come to this show from out of town due to the fact that TM puts on the best all around car show in this region right next to HIN, thats why people will come because they want to be apart of the show, if it is advertised right it could get even bigger being inside because there will be more room for more cars endless options of different activites to have within reason

Ill still come. i might need a sidekick tho. :icon_salut:

[FG2]

The evolution of the P10 show came from a huge risk as Scott mentioned. We used to hold annual show n shines at the Fargo and Grand Forks location. 4 years ago I asked about the chance of getting into the Civic Center. Shane was skeptical, but after checking rates and getting some response on the idea, we gave it a go. P10 Gen 1 was a great success, and that has what we have built on every year. We have tried things that failed (Inebriation, 2 rooms for the show (Civic Center), and we have tried things that have been successful (Fargodome, Tianna, Red Carpet, etc...). I really REALLY like the idea to expand for 2009 and put a twist on the already successful show. There are many things that go into planning an event, and the planning usually starts in January. So from now until then, we need to decide on how to make the 2009 event refreshing, yet successful/profitable. So I will go back to the basics and put down the Pro's and Con's that I can think of at this point (to having it indoor vs. outdoor)

<u>Indoor</u>

Pro's:

1. Continued growing success - we know we can fill the Fargodome with awesome show vehicles

2. No rain risk (this is an enormous risk, as if it rains we not only lose entries/attendance, but lose the deposits on anything run off electricity (DJ, sound, lighting, stage) and the deposit on the lot/arena rental.

3. Familiarity of running the event

4. Easy to monitor paid entrees

5. Convenience for talent (suites/rooms for models, judges, us, etc...)

6. No mosquitoes

7. Controlled Temperature

8. Roll-in is controlled/smooth and no backed up traffic

Con's:

1. It has been done for 4 years, and a change may introduce new vehicles and anything with a running car is exempt.

2. High expense for electricity

3. High expense for building rental

<u>Outdoor</u>

**Pro's:
**

1. The feel that being outdoors in North Dakota gives on a nice cool evening

2. The ability to LOOK INTO a stunt event/auto-x/burnout contest/etc...

3. A change from every other P10

4. No electricity charge to us, or the entries as the cars would be able to be idle'd.

Con's:

1. Rain risk

2. High humidity that ND can have, making even after sunset irritable and giving the entire show a bad vibe

3. Mosquitoes

4. Risk involved IF we could have a motorsport event

5. Insurance expense to hold a motorsport event

6. Potential loss of entries due to rain risk and a 3-12 hour drive

7. Noise ordinance - RibFest has proven that you can have noise after 10pm in the dome, however was their an expense? License? Or am I off and the music was off by 10pm?

8. Regulate those that pay to enter may be tough

That is my quick 'off the top of my head' thoughts. Judging from the Pro's and Con's, it makes most sense to hold it inside....I am <u>VERY</u> much into the idea of an outdoor event, but there is a lot of roadblocks to overcome. I would like to continue reading others thoughts/objections.

Jason Christopherson
Perfect 10 Show Coordinator
[email protected]

[inspector01]

One idea would be, have the show indoors, but have a few things outdoors like a stunt show and/or drifting....so people can go indoors and outdoors to a fenced in area for the shows. (this would also allow a more controlled spectator spot for the stunt/drift show.)

[FG2]

inspector01;243952 wrote:
One idea would be, have the show indoors, but have a few things outdoors like a stunt show and/or drifting....so people can go indoors and outdoors to a fenced in area for the shows. (this would also allow a more controlled spectator spot for the stunt/drift show.)

We need to focus on indoor/outdoor before we look into outdoor drift events (which won't happen)...If we have it indoors, we planned to look into other outdoor options.

• Jason

[95accord]

dont really matter to me, sounds fun either way, im prolly gonna enter this coming show finally

[drift86]

I like the out door idea. I would like to see a drift demo also but I see that not ever happening. it would be nice to have a change as well. Indoor shows are nice but the atmosphere outside could be a lot better I believe.

[Slowica]

drift86;244210 wrote:
I like the out door idea. I would like to see a drift demo also but I see that not ever happening. it would be nice to have a change as well. Indoor shows are nice but the atmosphere outside could be a lot better I believe.

lol ya i wouldn't plan on seeing a drift event ever happen. Burnout contest would most likely be pushing it

[behnd_the_sparco_harness]

SPANISH-RICE;243930 wrote:
Outdoors with a wet t shirt contest, decibel comp, burnout comp, ... Open bar...

i think i could think of a few people who'd be down for a wet tshirt contest..

i think the outdoor idea would be something fun and out of the ordinary. i'd be down to walk around and get a tan while checkin out sweet cars!

[drift86]

Why would a drift demo NEVER happen? Ya insurance is high but if you talk to the right people things get worked out pretty easily. I don't seeing it happening this year but maybe sometime.

[BomexE]

[QUOTE=behnd_the_sparco_harness;244280]i think i could think of a few people who'd be down for a wet tshirt contest..

a wet t-shirt contest would be awesome id be down for that but it wouldn't happen due to p10 show being so well known that not just car people show up...i saw families with little kids at the dome this year and i'm sure they would not appreciate seeing that kind of thing, which would cause them to throw a fit and cause TM to get bad PR or something

[2wheeler]

drift86;244210 wrote:
I would like to see a drift demo also but I see that not ever happening.

drift86;244281 wrote:
Why would a drift demo NEVER happen?

Um....

[drift86]

I ask why it wouldn't I didn't say that it would. And by the first statement I ment I don't ever seeing it happen this year

[SPANISH-RICE]

Drifting is for silly kids that cant keep their cars straight maybe i should be a drifter

[gsrEK]

spanish-rice;244319 wrote:
drifting is for silly kids that cant keep their cars straight maybe i should be a drifter

yes

tray drifting ftw

[drift86]

Lol hjermstad u were a drifter didn't turn out well tho

[bubba]

SPANISH-RICE;243930 wrote:
Outdoors with a wet t shirt contest, decibel comp, burnout comp, ... Open bar...

I'm down...

[legacy-user-2306]

i like the idea but there is a lot of factors you need to think of with having a outdoor show of that caliber. first thing is you have many hoops to jump to get permits for a lot of different things. then you need to try to get some big clubs to come to do drifting, bike stunts and many other things like that. i have seen many shows that have had hin nightshift highlights and don't get me wrong it looks sick but not as easy as some people think.

[00Accord]

Why not just have the show like last year at the dome and then do all the extra stuff the next day at the track? That way, the show will go on no matter what, and if it rains, we won't lose out on as much and the wet tshirt contest will just have more crowd involvement.

[Joel]

SPANISH-RICE;244319 wrote:
Drifting is for silly kids that cant keep their sexual tendencies straight maybe i should be a drifter

Whoa WTF did he just say?

[fdfreak]

well, if you did it outside and it rained...you wont have trouble getting contestants for the wet t-shirt contest.