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    Tad218
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    No Leno
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/hitnail.asp

    But basically America is upset because it could be better. We have it very good and I'm thankful I live here but why be stuck being content when it could be much better for a lot of people with some changes we actually have some say over?

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      Tad218;244079 wrote:
      No Leno
      http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/hitnail.asp

      But basically America is upset because it could be better. We have it very good and I'm thankful I live here but why be stuck being content when it could be much better for a lot of people with some changes we actually have some say over?

      so why not move to a socialist country where you could have that "better life" and quit trying to ruin mine

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          This has nothing to do with real socialism or what you're probably referring to as "socialism"....

          I'm saying America could be better right now. Do you seriously think America is in the best possible shape it could be in right now?

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            Tad218;244095 wrote:
            Do you seriously think America is in the best possible shape it could be in right now?

            NO.... it could be better if all the people like your got the fuck out of here

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              Tad218;244095 wrote:
              This has nothing to do with real socialism or what you're probably referring to as "socialism"....

              I'm saying America could be better right now. Do you seriously think America is in the best possible shape it could be in right now?
              honestly... what kind of change do you want to see?

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              > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
              > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
              > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
              > You are right Parker.

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                zbrown;244103 wrote:
                NO.... it could be better if all the people like your got the fuck out of here
                People like me meaning what?

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                  Tad218;244116 wrote:
                  People like me meaning what?

                  Government humping homos

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                    Parker;244104 wrote:
                    honestly... what kind of change do you want to see?
                    take your time to think... because off the top of you're head im betting you dont know... but go ahead and deny what is so true...

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                    > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                    > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                    > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                    > You are right Parker.

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                        Parker;244121 wrote:
                        take your time to think... because off the top of you're head im betting you dont know... but go ahead and deny what is so true...
                        The economy is a good place to start. Have you been paying attention to it?

                        The lack of jobs, the fact jobs pay too low, the stock market, foreclosed homes, wasting money on an unnecessary war, etc...

                        Not to mention I'd like to see changes when it comes to health care and illegal immigration....

                        The standard stuff I'm sure you'd agree with me on if you're being honest....

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                          All Hail The Führer

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                            If you think things couldn't use improving right now, you have zero respect for this country.

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                              Just saw this thread...but what I want to see....

                              Equal percentage rate income tax across the board

                              corporations paying their share of taxes (IOW, close some damn loopholes)

                              lose the incentives for companies to incorporate overseas vs here

                              more oversight regarding banking, not to protect the people from themselves, but to protect them from others

                              an end to the war in Iraq. You can't defeat an idea....Hitler tried that with poor success w/ his genocide attempt on the Jews

                              a solid energy plan that includes searching for new, reliable, efficient sources of alternative energy

                              a continuation of the farm program that ensures cheap food for everyone in this country. I don't want my food prices jerked around like the gas prices. I'll pay $.10 more today to save $.20 tomorrow thank you.

                              an end to the Patriot Act...or at least a total revamp of it

                              funding for no child left behind...seriously, we are going to cut funding for schools that aren't up to par...how is that going to help?

                              Someone who is going to stand up for all of the aspects of the constitution...but realizes that some things aren't as black and white as our founding fathers thought they might have been.

                              An end to the borrow and spend tactics of the current administration. I'd rather see tax and spend than borrow and spend.

                              Someone with the balls to sit down with the leaders of countries we don't agree with politically, rather than just overthrow them. It worked with Russia who was a greater threat than any of these little piss-ant middle eastern countries...I don't see why Reagan was able to do it, but somehow we think that the next (or current) president won't be able to.

                              Someone who has a plan to make healthcare more affordable and catastrophic care more available.

                              Someone who is willing to work towards stopping illegal immigration.

                              This is what I want from my country. This is what I want from my president. Neither candidate offers a total package, but one is a hell of a lot closer than the other.

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                                tjamz;244134 wrote:
                                Someone who is going to stand up for all of the aspects of the constitution...but realizes that some things aren't as black and white as our founding fathers thought they might have been.

                                So the truth shows itself....

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                                  tjamz;244134 wrote:
                                  Just saw this thread...but what I want to see....

                                  Equal percentage rate income tax across the board

                                  corporations paying their share of taxes (IOW, close some damn loopholes)

                                  lose the incentives for companies to incorporate overseas vs here

                                  more oversight regarding banking, not to protect the people from themselves, but to protect them from others

                                  an end to the war in Iraq. You can't defeat an idea....Hitler tried that with poor success w/ his genocide attempt on the Jews

                                  a solid energy plan that includes searching for new, reliable, efficient sources of alternative energy

                                  a continuation of the farm program that ensures cheap food for everyone in this country. I don't want my food prices jerked around like the gas prices. I'll pay $.10 more today to save $.20 tomorrow thank you.

                                  an end to the Patriot Act...or at least a total revamp of it

                                  funding for no child left behind...seriously, we are going to cut funding for schools that aren't up to par...how is that going to help?

                                  Someone who is going to stand up for all of the aspects of the constitution...but realizes that some things aren't as black and white as our founding fathers thought they might have been.

                                  An end to the borrow and spend tactics of the current administration. I'd rather see tax and spend than borrow and spend.

                                  Someone with the balls to sit down with the leaders of countries we don't agree with politically, rather than just overthrow them. It worked with Russia who was a greater threat than any of these little piss-ant middle eastern countries...I don't see why Reagan was able to do it, but somehow we think that the next (or current) president won't be able to.

                                  Someone who has a plan to make healthcare more affordable and catastrophic care more available.

                                  Someone who is willing to work towards stopping illegal immigration.

                                  This is what I want from my country. This is what I want from my president. Neither candidate offers a total package, but one is a hell of a lot closer than the other.
                                  so all in all... you want the government to control more of your life....

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                                  > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                                  > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                                  > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                                  > You are right Parker.

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                                    zbrown;244136 wrote:
                                    So the truth shows itself....

                                    I don't see how that is a problem. I think the last AWB was overdone, but some of the gun control/ownership background checks that came out of it were good. I really don't see another one actually passing.

                                    Many of the things that are spelled out in the constitution and Bill of Rights (BoR) are subject to logical over-ruling.

                                    For example:

                                    Free Speech: You can't yell "fire" in a movie theater, you can't threaten the lives of others, etc....

                                    Right to keep and bear arms: You can't carry a gun into a school, you can't own a nuclear weapon, you can't drive with a gun hanging out the window of your vehicle

                                    Search & Seizure: If a cop smells pot in your car or sees you commit a crime in your home through a window, they can search your home/car and confiscate any evidence

                                    States Rights: This gets trampled on every day by our gov't either directly or indirectly (such as taking away state funds for not enforcing a seat belt law, drinking age or other federally mandated changes)

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                                      Parker;244138 wrote:
                                      so all in all... you want the government to control more of your life....

                                      Show me the more gov't control in what you quoted: (all in Blue are gov't control, red are more freedoms/lower taxes) those left in normal text can be argued as being either side.

                                      tjamz;244134 wrote:
                                      Just saw this thread...but what I want to see....

                                      Equal percentage rate income tax across the board

                                      corporations paying their share of taxes (IOW, close some damn loopholes) 2/3 corporations pay ZERO corporate taxes...tax them at a flat rate as well

                                      lose the incentives for companies to incorporate overseas vs here

                                      more oversight regarding banking, not to protect the people from themselves, but to protect them from others

                                      an end to the war in Iraq. You can't defeat an idea....Hitler tried that with poor success w/ his genocide attempt on the Jews

                                      a solid energy plan that includes searching for new, reliable, efficient sources of alternative energy

                                      a continuation of the farm program that ensures cheap food for everyone in this country. I don't want my food prices jerked around like the gas prices. I'll pay $.10 more today to save $.20 tomorrow thank you.

                                      an end to the Patriot Act...or at least a total revamp of it

                                      funding for no child left behind...seriously, we are going to cut funding for schools that aren't up to par...how is that going to help?

                                      Someone who is going to stand up for all of the aspects of the constitution...but realizes that some things aren't as black and white as our founding fathers thought they might have been.

                                      An end to the borrow and spend tactics of the current administration. I'd rather see tax and spend than borrow and spend.

                                      Someone with the balls to sit down with the leaders of countries we don't agree with politically, rather than just overthrow them. It worked with Russia who was a greater threat than any of these little piss-ant middle eastern countries...I don't see why Reagan was able to do it, but somehow we think that the next (or current) president won't be able to.

                                      Someone who has a plan to make healthcare more affordable and catastrophic care more available. (EDIT AFTER THE FACT: But also leaves health care as a private entity and is not out to have uniform/automatic healthcare) Though I'd argue this should be in red as it will SAVE taxpayers money vs the current system.

                                      Someone who is willing to work towards stopping illegal immigration.

                                      This is what I want from my country. This is what I want from my president. Neither candidate offers a total package, but one is a hell of a lot closer than the other.

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                                        tjamz;244141 wrote:
                                        Show me the more gov't control in what you quoted: (all in Blue are gov't control, red are more freedoms/lower taxes) those left in normal text can be argued as being either side.

                                        hmm you seem to have the constitution statement in red......... am i missing something

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                                          almost all of it looks like its controled from the goverment to me...

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                                          > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                                          > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                                          > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                                          > You are right Parker.

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