watch this video, then discuss
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rexwagon;279742 wrote:
how did this turn into a religous debate weather god is real or not? Lolbeing as the thread was a video about a relgion taking over?
here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
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if you declare jihad on me you better be ready to bring it. i've fought holyer wars than this
....infidel
here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
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Organized religion is a joke, what has it gotten us, wars, killing in the name of, abusing kids, creating hate & intolerance, etc....
I love people who say your life most suck to not have religion, its better than just following what you are told (by people like priests who abuse kids, or have started wars because someone had a different belief).
I'm not religious, but I've got beliefs.
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SPANISH-RICE;279732 wrote:
Then where would that "someone" have come from?Exactly why I don't consider myself agnostic. I guess I am "atheist", because I'm not entirely sure what "higher power" there would even be, other than another intelligent civilization being the catalyst. I just personally think a lot is fueled simply by nature, which could be that higher power?
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PSiedTSi;279759 wrote:
Exactly why I don't consider myself agnostic. I guess I am "atheist", because I'm not entirely sure what "higher power" there would even be, other than another intelligent civilization being the catalyst. I just personally think a lot is fueled simply by nature, which could be that higher power?You have such a stoner mentality....:)
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inspector01;279758 wrote:
Organized religion is a joke, what has it gotten us, wars, killing in the name of, abusing kids, creating hate & intolerance, etc....I love people who say your life most suck to not have religion, its better than just following what you are told (by people like priests who abuse kids, or have started wars because someone had a different belief).
I'm not religious, but I've got beliefs.
My faith has nothing to do with a priest or a pastor. My faith come straight from the bible. My faith is dependent on my relationship with God. This is a relationship the depends on no one else.
I am sorry for the comment made to spanish rice about his life must suck. I didnt mean that.
Now in the old testament ones entrance into heaven was based on their faith in God and abiding by the ten commandments. The worlds sins became so bad that God sent his son (God in the flesh) to die for our sins to save us from eternal damnation, hence Jesus labeled as our Savior. So for the last 2000 years ones entrance into heaven is based on knowing that Jesus came to earth as flesh, died for humans sins, and he defeated death by rising on the third day.
the feeling of being saved is an experience once has to go through to understand and a joy that nothing else even compares too.
I agree with the statement about Alah and God being the same being. everyone has a different way of praising the same higher power.
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Regardless of religion. Who wants any more of those stinky bartards running around our country?!
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SmitEvo;279760 wrote:
You have such a stoner mentality....:)
Lost on that one... 
fdfreak wrote:
the feeling of being saved is an experience once has to go through to understand and a joy that nothing else even compares too.I was born and raised as a church goer. I was confirmed in High School, but the only thing I really felt was that I wasted my time...
If God is real, why do I need to "confirm" that I believe in him? Is my word not good enough?
GoldyHatchPSI;279765 wrote:
Regardless of religion. Who wants any more of those stinky bartards running around our country?!There's the flaw in the video. Everyone hears "Islamic" and they think middle eastern people. Just because they are Islamic, doesn't mean they are middle eastern...
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I know of a number of "islamic" people in Fargo who are much whiter than me.....
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Trafik Jamz;279770 wrote:
I know of a number of "islamic" people in Fargo who are much whiter than me.....Yeah that was kinda my point...ANY race can be islamic...and most aren't "extremists" like the ones causing harm in the world. It's basically all hype, religion or not IMO. Atleast it urged us to fuck more, not kill the ones "overpopulating".
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SmitEvo;279736 wrote:
Yep...old testament stuff. Better follow that to a T. Then the new testament came around and does not state all of those things. The new way for Christians is through Jesus.While I don't disagree with you that this is old testament, isn't it safe to say then the if the other "abominations" are to be thrown out and irrelevant then the homosexuality one should be as well?
I believe in intelligent design and a being that "I" refer to as God. I don't, however, believe that the bible is the literal word of God but rather a collection of stories/morals in which to live your life by. Most of my beliefs on that fly in the face of conventional Christianity....and while I may not believe every story of the Bible, I will say this....something spectacular happened about 2009 years ago that changed the world. The Christians see that time in history as the day our Savior gave his life for our sins....the Jews and Muslims see it as a time that a great prophet walked the Earth. I'm in the camp of the Christians on this one as there were many great prophets before Jesus, but ironically none really after.
Aside from intelligent design, I do believe that life is constantly evolving. It is well documented that the pinky finger has been slowly shrinking over the past few centuries...why? Because we don't need it as much any more as we used to and we are evolving in such a manner that (theoretically) some day we will no longer have a pinky.
I'd also theorize that skin color is a result of evolution. Darker skinned people have origins closer to the equator whereas lighter skinned people tend to be from cooler climates.
To discount evolution is as foolish as discounting intelligent design. In my opinion the two work together not against each other....heck even Pope John Paul II agreed that evolution is beyond theory.
I don't necessarily think that we all evolved from a single organism however.
Cliff Notes on what Chuck believes:
There is a "God"
The bible is a great reference manual on how to live your life, but the stories should not necessarily be taken literally
Evolution co-exists with God
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D S ohM;279781 wrote:
as logical as believing that people can actually travel back in time.But it theoretically is possible.
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