National Health Care
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listen guy, that has nothing to do with any of it, and like i said i carry my own policy and dont use the VA except for the mandatory stuff. I think people get shit for a reason and die for a reason, its natures way. If you dont like it fuck you, i dont need your acceptance, sorry im not some soft cored little bitch
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I can't wait until you or one of you close friends/family has cancer or brain surgery and dies. I'm going to go to the funeral and LAUGH MY ASS OFF and say "They deserved to die, insurance should not cover any of it."
Your ignorance is absurd.
Go talk to the dude who just had his leg amputated. Ask him if he could have afforded the bill without insurance. Willing to bet he couldn't have.
Insurance saves lives. It's the babies who get checked for everything that causes the cost of insurance to go up.
If you don't believe in insurance, what the fuck do you have a policy for? So when you get sick and almost die, that other people's money can save your life? Or will you run like a bitch to the VA and get ur free medical care?
Fuck off and die you worthless pile of white trash. End your life now before you humiliate yourself any more.
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Are you kidding stupid fuck? Insurance is GREAT, but there is a limit dude, why you getting so bent out of shape for? Cause your a dumbfuck, if you dont like my opinions, block my posts! If you dont, then fuck you! whats with all the personal attacks because of my beleifs? Boo hoo i was a giant sandy pussy and didnt join the military so i have to run them down and bitch about the VA. Guess what, i signed a contract with them and the coverage is part of it. fucking baby
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is it just me or does this link guy only talk mad shit. yet who the fuck is he?
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Grr;283323 wrote:
Are you kidding stupid fuck? Insurance is GREAT, but there is a limit dude, why you getting so bent out of shape for? Cause your a dumbfuck, if you dont like my opinions, block my posts! If you dont, then fuck you! whats with all the personal attacks because of my beleifs? Boo hoo i was a giant sandy pussy and didnt join the military so i have to run them down and bitch about the VA. Guess what, i signed a contract with them and the coverage is part of it. fucking babyI don't know about you, but a life is priceless. You cannot replace it. Therefore, there is no limit (nor should there be).
Why are you getting bent out of shape? I'm making fun of your dumb ass because you think people should just die instead of insurance helping out. Your just a complete idiot if you think people should die instead of having a 800k medical bill to save a life.
Want to know why I'm pissed? Because of ignorant jackass prick's like you who think a innocent 8 yr old girl shouldn't be alive to this very day because of her medical bill that was very high. Go fuck yourself you jewish cunt.
Oh and drifter, your just a straight up dumbfuck. Thats all.
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Link;283329 wrote:
I don't know about you, but a life is priceless. You cannot replace it. Therefore, there is no limit (nor should there be).Why are you getting bent out of shape? I'm making fun of your dumb ass because you think people should just die instead of insurance helping out. Your just a complete idiot if you think people should die instead of having a 800k medical bill to save a life.
Want to know why I'm pissed? Because of ignorant jackass prick's like you who think a innocent 8 yr old girl shouldn't be alive to this very day because of her medical bill that was very high. Go fuck yourself you jewish cunt.
Oh and drifter, your just a straight up dumbfuck. Thats all.
so who is paying for all these people to stay alive and get medical care?
because i'm pretty sure earlier gary said insurence should be used responsably. As in your policy should be that it pays for "major" incidents, not the yearly check up's and random cavity you might get.
this allows you to get a greater coverage for the chance you might have a problem that is life changing( cancer/stroke/etc..).
Now you bashing him for joining the military and getting to use the free or discounted health coverage. well thats just down right classy. i know for myself i don't disrespect people that serve, as i have not done so. so i should be greatfull for there service, as should you.
oh and link, eat me, faggot
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DrifterExtreme;283331 wrote:
so who is paying for all these people to stay alive and get medical care?because i'm pretty sure earlier gary said insurence should be used responsably. As in your policy should be that it pays for "major" incidents, not the yearly check up's and random cavity you might get.
this allows you to get a greater coverage for the chance you might have a problem that is life changing( cancer/stroke/etc..).
Read some of my earlier posts. I agree that the little random checkup's should not be covered. I already stated that before.
Whose responsibility is it to pay for these "major" medical bills? The insurance company. People pay the insurance company for their service. Now you have a contract with this company stating you will get XXX coverage.
Everyone else works the same. I am failing to see how you think because you pay the insurance for coverage that you think your paying for other people's bills. Your paying for YOUR coverage, not anyone elses. It's the insurance companies responsibility to have enough money (from all of their customers) to be able to fullfill the contract of all their customers.
Your paying the company for a SERVICE. Who gives a shit how they spend their money as long as you get the care you need when the time comes.
Now you bashing him for joining the military and getting to use the free or discounted health coverage. well thats just down right classy. i know for myself i don't disrespect people that serve, as i have not done so. so i should be greatfull for there service, as should you.
I respect him for serving in our military. Do i respect him as a person? No, I think he is an ignorant jewish prick.
oh and link, eat me, faggot
classy. that all you got? Makes you sound even more queer. Go hump your buddy Will's leg.
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lol, yeah im jewish, actually i had family in the SS back in the day, and family fighting against them. Just so you know you anti semite, im glad this is really bringing your true colors out for all to see.
Case in point of why this was brought up to begin with. He said his aunt had around $1 mil of treatment through her history with this company. Ok, so she probably paid 150k in premiums tops. Now they wont renew her policy, and your pissed????? They just gave her 850k of money that they had to take from someone else and lost their ass. Now say they DID renew her policy, and maybe its a small company and she racks up another $1mil in bills and the place has to fold and go bankrupt since they have lost so much money. Now who the fuck is she to do this to everyone else that was paying premiums and will no longer get the same treatment? Why should they have to pay an increased premium to cover the companies giant fiscal losses?? YOU gonna pay it? NO, so your just as bad as you say i am since she would now have to die, and you arent doing anything about it, see how that works? Or are you really that stupid
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Grr;283283 wrote:
I hate to be so condecending, but by reading your posts you just sound like a piece of shit welfare case to me. If your aunt has had that many problems to rack up $1mil+, sorry but she should be dead by now, and big fucking deal if you have to take the cheap pills? Can you afford the difference to buy the good ones? If not, tough shit you should be thankful that someone else is paying the $40 that THEY cost. boo hoo i want everything on someone elses dime, fuck you and pay for your own shitim not even going to touch the welfare case thing but if you knew anything about anything you would have understood what i was saying. i HAVE insurance so guess which ones the doctor prescribes me.. the EXPENSIVE ONES. do you have common sense? the generic pills a for free clinics and pfizer run hospitals, not state insured policy holders.
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Grr;283341 wrote:
lCase in point of why this was brought up to begin with. He said his aunt had around $1 mil of treatment through her history with this company. Ok, so she probably paid 150k in premiums tops. Now they wont renew her policy, and your pissed????? They just gave her 850k of money that they had to take from someone else and lost their ass. Now say they DID renew her policy, and maybe its a small company and she racks up another $1mil in bills and the place has to fold and go bankrupt since they have lost so much money. Now who the fuck is she to do this to everyone else that was paying premiums and will no longer get the same treatment? Why should they have to pay an increased premium to cover the companies giant fiscal losses?? YOU gonna pay it? NO, so your just as bad as you say i am since she would now have to die, and you arent doing anything about it, see how that works? Or are you really that stupid
im not pissed. im not on here crying because of her supposed misfortune. she will be just fine. it was an example. my point is insurance and health care in this country in general is ass backwards. pills cost ten times what they should. surgery costs ten times what it should. people die at the mercy of paperwork and for what? we pay for the cia to jet around the world but none of you are dumb enough to grap this. nothing has to even change save for EVERYONE getting a standard of care regardless. that is my only position on this. there is no reason people die in the country when they could be helped. yes even if it costs the almighty dollar. this whole stealing from you to save her bullshit is really pretty selfish and wearing thin. YOUR paying to keep bush safe from stray shoes still but your fine letting someone die. are YOU really that dense?
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24valvenotak;283344 wrote:
im not pissed. im not on here crying because of her supposed misfortune. she will be just fine. it was an example. my point is insurance and health care in this country in general is ass backwards. pills cost ten times what they should. surgery costs ten times what it should. people die at the mercy of paperwork and for what? we pay for the cia to jet around the world but none of you are dumb enough to grap this. nothing has to even change save for EVERYONE getting a standard of care regardless. that is my only position on this. there is no reason people die in the country when they could be helped. yes even if it costs the almighty dollar. this whole stealing from you to save her bullshit is really pretty selfish and wearing thin. YOUR paying to keep bush safe from stray shoes still but your fine letting someone die. are YOU really that dense?I think he's referring to me dude.
Grr, You still failed to miss why im pissed. You stated an 8 yr old girl should die because the medical bill was real high. Fuck that shit. It's the risk insurance companies take.
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Parker;283365 wrote:
in regards to dropping people because they cost too much...Are insurance companies not out too make money just like every other company? Or should they just bite the bullet and start taking massive loss's?
Whats fair?
An insurance cannot drop you because a medical bill is to high. It's the risk they take. They HAVE to pay what they are held responsible for, but can drop you AFTER they uphold their end of the contract.
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and if their contractual obligations exclude expenses >$500k for a single claim (ie surgery, hospital stay, medications, rehabilitation, etc)?
my rental policy max is 500k/occurence and my house policy is $2mil/occurence, should i expect to be able to make a claim higher than that? why is there an implied (and effective) double-standard for health insurance? -
This made me LOL
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Just for shits, I decided to look up what other businesses the US Gov't owns.
The Government owned corporations of the United States are as follows:
* Tennessee Valley Authority * Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation * Millenium challenge corporation * St. Lawrence Seaway Development Corporation * Amtrak * NPRC * Overseas Private Investment Corporation * Freddie Mac * Fannie Mae * Panama Canal Authority * Bank of America (and subsidiaries) * GMC (General Motors Corp) (and others) * AIG (American International Group) (and others) * Legal services corp. * Federal Crop Insurance Corporation * CCC (Community Commodity Corp) * Corporation for National Community Service (and all programs) * Sallie Mae (And subsidiaries) * Farmer Mac * Corporation for Public Broadcasting * Voice America * FDIC (Federal Deposit insurance corp) * SPIC
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