Why doesn't anybody race?
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Grr wrote:
Anyway i think talking to the cops is a great idea. Been there, done that, it works. The thing they like the most is people being up front and serious with them. Another thing is even if we tell them we would like 1 car patrolling the area to bust the idiots, look at it this way. To them, we are the reason they are patrolling in the first place. If they can get us in a controlled environment, where they can watch us its alot easier than trying to track our asses down all over fargo. Highest order of business is to find a local parking area, that is suitable for 25-50 cars where its quiet, non-intrusive and easily supervised.
Along with the cruises, im down for it, and screwing around a little bit is no big thing. but if i see someone being a complete ass ill hit the next exit or road and you probably wont see me for awhile. I hate jackasses and i let them know it. Dont take me as some grumpy dick either, ive been there, you get a warning then your history, been there too.
One more thing, from experience, our club was only welcome to people that were running 13's or faster. That might sound cruel but we had the audience and could put restrictions up like that. Now not trying to be a dick but if you have worked to get 13's, or have the cash to buy a 13 scond ride, you are probably smarter and more responsible than the millions of POS ricer mobiles out there doing 17's. That said, i dont care for those people to even be around, as they are 90% of the problem, and keeping the problem away is 90% of the solution. Case in point, the wave of ricer idiots in high school that have infiltrated the site recently. BUT, proving yourself, and a certain attitude can open the door for anyone, even more so for people that want to learn, I happen to absolutly love teachin people, try to do it as much as i can. and im not the smartest, but i dont appreciate a lack of respect by any means. I look forward to meeting some of you and hope the coming year is good to all of us.
GaryThis man speaks the truth. Find a suitable location first, then start working with the police for permission.
And someone mentioned 'no matter how often you get ugly, they'll keep coming back' or whatever. Well, if they keep coming back, and keep fucking around, I'll keep yelling at them every single time I see them. I'll tell them to not come back until they mature and get their head on straight because nobody is amazed by their desire for everyone's attention. When I first started hanging out with people in the sport compact/racing scene in my freshman year of hs, I was asked to leave on multiple occasions just because of what I drove! (Mazda B2200 truck, stock) All I was wanting to do was see what all made up my hometown scene. But because of that, I developed the desire to have a higher-level vehicle than your average 17 sec 'tuner' car, and started working towards it.
If you tell someone to leave and give them a reason why, and they have a shred of sense in their head, they will learn from it, and mature. I have no problem admitting I was an idiot 3 years ago, hell, I still do stupid stuff, but I've learned to not do it around a group of people with cars that probably hold more value than what I can pay out.
If we take in the younger guys, show them by example how to act in a group of enthusiasts, the local scene will progress.
-Peter
1991 240SX
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tjamz wrote:
I personally have no problem with this, and have participated in such activities at each of the 2 main shops in town.....however, you will only likely get about 4/7 of the people to show up at each of the shops that you would normally get at a neutral location. Realistically, do you think that Tufte and his crew would show up and hang out at Tintmasters or that Shane and his crew would go over to SLS? Yeah, me either.
Even then, I hardly see anyone from shops cruising around, or at any meets. I can understand, because most of there cars are most likely being worked on, but at the same time, i feel like there is a big division between everyone. Imports want nothing to do with domestics and vice versa, people with ridiculous cars, want nothing to do with people with average cars, etc etc.The whole scene up here is all messed up IMO.
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I like burnouts and fast cars.
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But I don't cruise at all. I hate fucking morons.
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^ You should come out anyways. Fuck it, ride along with someone else if ya don't want some toolbag hittin your car, haha.
I dunno, I just enjoy socializing with everyone, no matter what shop they work for or support, so I normally head to where the better action is at.
-Peter
1991 240SX
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tjamz wrote:
I personally have no problem with this, and have participated in such activities at each of the 2 main shops in town.....however, you will only likely get about 4/7 of the people to show up at each of the shops that you would normally get at a neutral location. Realistically, do you think that Tufte and his crew would show up and hang out at Tintmasters or that Shane and his crew would go over to SLS? Yeah, me either.that is very true. but it was an idea and could still be one.
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tjamz wrote:
I personally have no problem with this, and have participated in such activities at each of the 2 main shops in town.....however, you will only likely get about 4/7 of the people to show up at each of the shops that you would normally get at a neutral location. Realistically, do you think that Tufte and his crew would show up and hang out at Tintmasters or that Shane and his crew would go over to SLS? Yeah, me either.
I disagree. Who is STILL in that divided mode? There might be a few people out there that hold on to the "us vs. them" shit but it's definately not 4 out of 7 people that would show up to the ricer meets anyways. That shit has nothing to do with 95% of us so why would we care if a meet is at either shop? -
I agree with alot of whats been posted on here but one thing does tick me off. I really disagree with kicking someone out or not letting them hang out because of what they drive. I don't give 2 shits if they drive a Chevette or a Ferarri. They should all have the opportunity to hang out. That is, until they give a reason for them to be asked to leave. But, it should be because of their actions not what they drive. That to me is Elitist.
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MisterCMK wrote:
We still have shops in town? lolI think tintmasters boycotted FS after the boobie pics...
LOL! I saved all those pictures, and they've touched a few other forums :icon_thumright: HAHA!
But now SLS is on Main, sooooo shouldn't that be a nice new spot?
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A853 wrote:
LOL! I saved all those pictures, and they've touched a few other forums :icon_thumright: HAHA!But now SLS is on Main, sooooo shouldn't that be a nice new spot?
What do the SLS guys think???I think there isn't near enough parking area there.
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weshole wrote:
I think there isn't near enough parking area there.
Too much space could & can lead to issues, people being stupid.. But a place to hang out..
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weshole wrote:
I agree with alot of whats been posted on here but one thing does tick me off. I really disagree with kicking someone out or not letting them hang out because of what they drive. I don't give 2 shits if they drive a Chevette or a Ferarri. They should all have the opportunity to hang out. That is, until they give a reason for them to be asked to leave. But, it should be because of their actions not what they drive. That to me is Elitist.I hope you weren't referring to the last 'big' post I made...I wasn't suggesting it, I just said it's happened to me before.
-Peter
1991 240SX
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Theres too much to read so I'll sum up what I'm thinking with what I've skimmed:
Last year I made it VERY clear to the police that we did not want to be associated with the moron crowd. Dubbsy specifically can remember that night at Kmart when I called the police and was actually on the phone for a decent amount of time stating my case, and talked equally as long to the officer that showed up. She was very understanding and appreciative, but she ultimately had to tell us to leave because of the no loitering signs. She actually cared that we had no place to go and understood we just wanted to hang out.
Anyway, I suggested 32nd Hornbacher's last spring because I knew the managers at the stores from working with them and they know my dad. The one time you guys got kicked out and I wish I was. I no longer work at any Hornbacher's so that is definately out of the question now. Too bad too because we could have had 32nd or 13th. The best way to get a parking lot to use after ~9pm or whenever is to be in contact with the owner/manager. There are a ton of new strip malls opening up and maybe thats something to look into, but remember this is something that requires our enforcement on rules. If we ourselves are making the complaints to the proper authorities, we will gradually gain respect. Regardless, it's not going to happen overnight...
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Well.. Like I stated, what about the information center on 45th St? It's a public place, not owned by any business as far as I know.. I've seen car-shows there before, nothing big or serious, but more-so a during the day get together..
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