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  • jct_4628J Offline
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    jct_4628
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    #25

    Well, my suggestion would be this. If you bought a new deck somewhere, just go to best buy and tell them the type of car, and the type of deck, and they will sell you a harness. One side plugs into the car and one side into the new deck. Then all you have to do is hook the same colored wires together (crimp or solder)

    Jason
    -06 WRX
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    • dubbsyD Offline
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      #26

      do you have JBL on your speaker covers?
      (not necessarily a given way of telling)...

      but yes, looks like you have a premium sound system....which means.

      you need a different Scosche harness AND an amp bypass harness. (and I have NO idea where your amp would be. maybe under the rear deck? )

      1995 Mustang
      CAI, rimz, and springs.

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      • PSiedTSiP Offline
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        #27

        dubbsy wrote:
        do you have JBL on your speaker covers?
        (not necessarily a given way of telling)...

        but yes, looks like you have a premium sound system....which means.

        you need a different Scosche harness AND an amp bypass harness. (and I have NO idea where your amp would be. maybe under the rear deck? )

        EXACTLY what i said to him...its got the mach 460 the amps are in his center console and under the rear deck is what he told me...i told him he needs to run the wires directly from the deck to each speaker or have some kind of a bypass kit...

        At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

        92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
        95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
        1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
        Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

        > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
        > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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        • dubbsyD Offline
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          dubbsy
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          #28

          PSiedTSi wrote:
          EXACTLY what i said to him...its got the mach 460 the amps are in his center console and under the rear deck is what he told me...i told him he needs to run the wires directly from the deck to each speaker or have some kind of a bypass kit...

          ohhh yeah, wasn't even thinking Mach 460 as an option...
          (gonna be different than the one I dealt with.. was ford's premium sound package with 1 amp powering the speakers)

          1995 Mustang
          CAI, rimz, and springs.

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            #29

            yup, sounds like the best/easiest way to get around it is to run the speaker wires directly to the speakers in the doors.

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            • StangerBanger96S Offline
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              StangerBanger96
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              #30

              so basically what everyone's saying is that im gunna most likely have to pay someone to do this or attempt it on my own and probably screw something up?

              I also dont get how that would work.....................from what i understand (very limited understanding as you can probably tell) the headunit will be powering the speakers correct? If so......how will a 25x4 headunit power 6 speakers? (2 tweeters, 2 doors, 2 rears) why does shit have to be so complicated, they should standardize everything for gods sake.

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              • JoelJ Offline
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                Joel
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                #31

                pay me to do it, like i said the first time. i'll rewire you whole car for... we'll say... 50 bucks.

                no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                • StangerBanger96S Offline
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                  StangerBanger96
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                  #32

                  right now im bored and fed up so i have both door panels off as wella s the rear deck panel.....more is comming off soon. I just want to look at the whole car without all the fancy schmantzy covers and shit. Dad comes home tonight as well so ill get his opinion on it too. THanks guys

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                    hit me up on aim if you need some help dustin.

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                    • 2slo50h2 Offline
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                      Buy my Eclipse fronts and ditch the Mach crap. All I ever run is usualy a front sound stage. These things rock, and since the door panels are off and you have to rewire anything anyways would sound even better with your new subs. They play loud and very clear.

                      Most favorite DSM Quote to date.
                      "rastimg: owning a DSM is like having a retarded kid, you love it just like a normal car, but you constantly have to fix shit on it and make sure it doesnt embarrass you in public"

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                      • StangerBanger96S Offline
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                        StangerBanger96
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                        #35

                        after doing some reading up on stangnet it sounds like i might not necessarily have to rewire. I saw one suggestion to connect 2 male RCA cables to the amp wires from the car and then connect them to the RCA outs on the head unit so you can use the amps...any ideas on that? I guess there is some harness thats supposed to be like the holy grail though but i have yet to find one that looks like it'd fit. Im starting to wish we hadnt soldered them so well joel lol.

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                        • 2slo50h2 Offline
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                          2slo50h
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                          #36

                          There is more than one way to do it
                          For exampe. Its not really to difficult, you just need the harness, and a line level converter. Alot of wiring for very little in return. Have fun my friend put his in and it was such a mess of wires it looked terrible, obviously behind your dash ;). There is just to many wires going from here to there on account of the line level, and the fact its already not one but two harnessess to begin with.

                          Also there is the pre-amp harness, that uses the pre-amps instead of your powered channels to send the signal to the Mach amps. This works fine unless you only have 1 or 2 pair of preouts on your headunit cause then have nothing to run your subs with.

                          Here is a link to more info on it.
                          http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300217

                          So in other words, just buy my 6x8's run some speaker wire and call it a day.:D

                          Most favorite DSM Quote to date.
                          "rastimg: owning a DSM is like having a retarded kid, you love it just like a normal car, but you constantly have to fix shit on it and make sure it doesnt embarrass you in public"

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                          • StangerBanger96S Offline
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                            StangerBanger96
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                            #37

                            right now im thinking ill just bypass the factory amps and hook up subs so they can supply my bass. Me and chuck got to talk today so i have a somewhat better understanding of this shitaki, but still not fully. Team is looking into a harness for me as well so HOPEFULLY i'll be "bumpin" by monday.

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                            • MisterCMKM Offline
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                              Did you get it figured out yet? Gotta love the stangs, eh? Let me know if you need some help, I've put a few systems into the stangs/.

                              FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                              > thrash;315544 wrote:
                              > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                              >
                              > Ford is back :)

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                              • StangerBanger96S Offline
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                                StangerBanger96
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                                #39

                                i could always use more help CMK, anything that reduces my chances of blowing something up is always good.

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                                  Glad to see you got it working.

                                  FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                                  > thrash;315544 wrote:
                                  > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                                  >
                                  > Ford is back :)

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                                  • 2slo50h2 Offline
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                                    Did you end up rewiring or did you buy a install kit?

                                    Most favorite DSM Quote to date.
                                    "rastimg: owning a DSM is like having a retarded kid, you love it just like a normal car, but you constantly have to fix shit on it and make sure it doesnt embarrass you in public"

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                                      #42

                                      Pretty sure he went with an install kit. Rewiring the car would have (likely) involved making new high pass x-overs for his tweeters as I think they are crossed over at the amp (could be wrong there, but it would make sense) and I don't think he wanted to go through the process of designing/building a new x-over system.

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                                        #43

                                        Would not be that difficult but, for factory speakers probally a little more work then one would want.

                                        Most favorite DSM Quote to date.
                                        "rastimg: owning a DSM is like having a retarded kid, you love it just like a normal car, but you constantly have to fix shit on it and make sure it doesnt embarrass you in public"

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                                          We ended up using the Metra 70-1770 which bypassed the amps completely. That utilizes only the tweeters for the front of the car, and no signal is sent to the door speakers (subwoofers as the mach460 wiring diagram calls them). To compensate for the loss of those we hooked up the crappy free system i got and it works great. Dont know why but before when we hooked it up the amp went into protection in both mine and my friends cars when we hooked it up, then my dad (oh mighty electrician of the family lol) did it and it works...go figure!? Anyways it sounds great now compared to before so im happy. Now ill just have to save up some $$$ and maybe take you up on your offer w/ the coaxial speakers and stuff for the future Tjamz 😄 Thanks for your help guys. I should make a picture install guide to do that because ive YET to find a clear cut install guide w/ the mach 460 system.

                                          EDIT: it also goes to show how much of a difference it makes to sit back and take a look at things for a little bit and read through the instructions (and have a very good knowledge in electrical stuff like my dad does). Now that i look back on it..its obvious that this was the way to do it, but when i first started you coulda held a gun to my head and said "you have 10 min to figure it out" and i woulda died that day. My dad made it sound like rewiring the car would be no big deal, in fact, i had to convince him to not do his thing and splice into here and cut there and so on in order to get the 3 stock amps to work again as well haha. Oh well, good thing he's in the family.

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