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  • harwood39H Offline
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    harwood39
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    I like the way mine handles, with the right suspension and chassis mods you can get ther rear end out easily like a rear wheel, and it hold the road awsomely. Ask eric. He knows what im talking about. Ill give you a ride in mine next spring when its moving again.

    Harwood Development - Emergency Vehicle Upfitter

    2730 5th Ave S. Unit C
    Fargo, ND 58103
    701-429-3686

    Rontan, D&R Electronics, Feniex, Federal Signal, SVP/Star, Bradford, Tufloc, Lund, Code3, Sound-Off, Nova, Copeland, Power-Arc, Recon

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      harwood39 wrote:
      I like the way mine handles, with the right suspension and chassis mods you can get ther rear end out easily like a rear wheel, and it hold the road awsomely. Ask eric. He knows what im talking about. Ill give you a ride in mine next spring when its moving again.
      No you can't, stop lying!@!!!!!!

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      • harwood39H Offline
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        weshole wrote:
        Harwood I'll let you drive mine and you'll see why. A Civic is a FUCKIN plow compared to a Miata. It's easier to give the Miata more power than it is to make a civic handle like a Miata. Heck, even the SCCA has a class just for the miata. (spec, miata). Now I'm not flaming on a Civic either. In fact, I like em alot but there's absolutely no way a fwd is gonna outhandle a rwd. (within reason). Did I mention that my car (fully dressed) weighs in at 2100lbs?

        Ok, now i see why, 2100lbs fully dressed is fricken light. Mine wont even be that light gutted.

        Harwood Development - Emergency Vehicle Upfitter

        2730 5th Ave S. Unit C
        Fargo, ND 58103
        701-429-3686

        Rontan, D&R Electronics, Feniex, Federal Signal, SVP/Star, Bradford, Tufloc, Lund, Code3, Sound-Off, Nova, Copeland, Power-Arc, Recon

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        • wesholeW Offline
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          If you think your's handles.... I'll give you a ride and scare the shit out of you. There's no way you'll pull off in your civic what I can in mine. Now I'm sure your car is faster than mine (straight line), but that's where it ends. I think Tufte will back me on this.

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          • wesholeW Offline
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            [QUOTE=harwood39]with the right suspension and chassis mods you can get ther rear end out easily like a rear wheel, and it hold the road awsomely. QUOTE]

            If your sliding, your wasting momentum. I didn't think we were talking about drift racing here, were we? Even then, I'd rather have mine. My only gripe with the Miata, (other than it's lackluster power) is the interior room.

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              weshole wrote:
              If you think your's handles.... I'll give you a ride and scare the shit out of you. There's no way you'll pull off in your civic what I can in mine. Now I'm sure your car is faster than mine (straight line), but that's where it ends. I think Tufte will back me on this.

              Agreed!

              Harwood have you ever even been in a civic w/ good suspension?

              "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

              "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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              • harwood39H Offline
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                harwood39
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                #15

                ya, you need to give me a ride so i can see what your talking about

                Harwood Development - Emergency Vehicle Upfitter

                2730 5th Ave S. Unit C
                Fargo, ND 58103
                701-429-3686

                Rontan, D&R Electronics, Feniex, Federal Signal, SVP/Star, Bradford, Tufloc, Lund, Code3, Sound-Off, Nova, Copeland, Power-Arc, Recon

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                • harwood39H Offline
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                  ive been in my car, which has a somewhat good suspension(at least the stiffening) now im not saying its top of the line but my car handles awsome. I have also beenin kyles red hatch, and that thing is fricken awsome(omni coils and dampers, pasword 3 point front bar, really good sway bars, lower tie bars, rear strut bar) and its insane.

                  also frieteg and some others can vouch for my handling, 93civ is one fo those.

                  Harwood Development - Emergency Vehicle Upfitter

                  2730 5th Ave S. Unit C
                  Fargo, ND 58103
                  701-429-3686

                  Rontan, D&R Electronics, Feniex, Federal Signal, SVP/Star, Bradford, Tufloc, Lund, Code3, Sound-Off, Nova, Copeland, Power-Arc, Recon

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                  • wesholeW Offline
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                    #17

                    harwood39 wrote:
                    ive been in my car, which has a somewhat good suspension(at least the stiffening) now im not saying its top of the line but my car handles awsome. I have also beenin kyles red hatch, and that thing is fricken awsome(omni coils and dampers, pasword 3 point front bar, really good sway bars, lower tie bars, rear strut bar) and its insane.

                    And it needs all that to try and compete with a Miata in next to stock form. It's an impressive mod list. But you are still failing to grasp the big picture of how much a fwd is at a disadvantage compared to a rwd platform. Noone and I mean NOONE buys a Civic or any other fwd for that matter (modded or not) because of their handling prowess. But that is one of the reasons that the people that like Miata's own or want one.

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                      God damnit, now im starting to lean towards a miata if they are that nice. Cause either way, if i stick with my civic(most likely will) its not going to be a good daily driver. Its mostly going to be for track use. But if i could save money with selling my car and picking up a cheap used miata and not need to put all my money into suspension like i do with my car this winter, that may be a better choice for me.

                      Harwood Development - Emergency Vehicle Upfitter

                      2730 5th Ave S. Unit C
                      Fargo, ND 58103
                      701-429-3686

                      Rontan, D&R Electronics, Feniex, Federal Signal, SVP/Star, Bradford, Tufloc, Lund, Code3, Sound-Off, Nova, Copeland, Power-Arc, Recon

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                      • wesholeW Offline
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                        harwood39 wrote:
                        God damnit, now im starting to lean towards a miata if they are that nice. Cause either way, if i stick with my civic(most likely will) its not going to be a good daily driver. Its mostly going to be for track use. But if i could save money with selling my car and picking up a cheap used miata and not need to put all my money into suspension like i do with my car this winter, that may be a better choice for me.

                        Ther's no such thing as a cheap used Miata. I got mine for relatively cheap. But I had to go to Chicago to get it. And it needs body work. And modding a Civic is far cheaper to boot. Stick with the Civic. Trust me. You can afford that. Besides I like being different than most other people and like that I'm one of the only people I know under 50 that has one.

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                          harwood39
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                          #20

                          haha, ya i wouldnt want to step on your toes by getting one. And there are plenty in the cities that are under 4500. But anyways, my work thats getting done this winter isnt cheap, its going to cost me all the money i make to finish what i want to get done before the end of the school year. But i wont say what it is cause everyone will just flame me for it.

                          Harwood Development - Emergency Vehicle Upfitter

                          2730 5th Ave S. Unit C
                          Fargo, ND 58103
                          701-429-3686

                          Rontan, D&R Electronics, Feniex, Federal Signal, SVP/Star, Bradford, Tufloc, Lund, Code3, Sound-Off, Nova, Copeland, Power-Arc, Recon

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                          • wesholeW Offline
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                            weshole
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                            #21

                            Now this looks like fun and would be fun to do. I'd have to get another one to do this to though.

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                              weshole
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                              And I didn't say that youd be stepping on my toes. I just like being a little different from everybody else. That's why I didn't buy a Civic and that's why I got out of DSM's

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                                Thats my goal with the civic. thats another reason why im sticking with the d-series, you dont need tons of power to road race, and d-series are cheap to fix.

                                Anyways, I guess for shits i will thow up what i am doing to my car before spring(end of may)

                                P29 Pistons(pistons out of a d16a6)
                                ACL Bearings
                                Exedy Stage 1 clutch
                                Road race shifter
                                FAL Flexite rear 3 windows
                                Lexan Sunroof Plug
                                Lexan Roll downs
                                Falken Azenis tires
                                D2 full Coil Overs w/ 36 way adjustable dampers
                                Roll Cage
                                CF trunk lid
                                CF gas door
                                Password 3 Point Front Bar
                                C-Piller bar
                                Trunk Floor bar
                                Sparco Speed seats
                                Harnesses
                                Powerstop Drilled/Slotted Front Rotors
                                EBC brake pads
                                Rear lower Tie bar
                                Eibach Sway bars
                                Energy supsension poly bushings
                                Billet motor mounts
                                Password Front Subframe support
                                Greddy catch can(need due to removed PCV system)
                                Front lower h-brace
                                RSR GTII Cat back exhaust
                                Resonated test pipe
                                ARC Intake
                                Aluminum radiator
                                Road race shifter
                                Omni Clutch master cyl.
                                SS Braded brake lines
                                SS clutch line
                                Road Race Gear Front lip/splitter
                                J-s racing cf air duct
                                Skunk2 Upper front control arms
                                Skunk2 rear lower arms
                                Skunk2 upper rear arms
                                Remove the rest of the interior besides door panels and dash

                                Thats why this winter is going to be expensive, family is buying me parts for my b-day and x-mas, and all my money is going into it.

                                Harwood Development - Emergency Vehicle Upfitter

                                2730 5th Ave S. Unit C
                                Fargo, ND 58103
                                701-429-3686

                                Rontan, D&R Electronics, Feniex, Federal Signal, SVP/Star, Bradford, Tufloc, Lund, Code3, Sound-Off, Nova, Copeland, Power-Arc, Recon

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                                  #24

                                  weshole wrote:
                                  Harwood I'll let you drive mine and you'll see why. A Civic is a FUCKIN plow compared to a Miata. It's easier to give the Miata more power than it is to make a civic handle like a Miata. Heck, even the SCCA has a class just for the miata. (spec, miata). Now I'm not flaming on a Civic either. In fact, I like em alot but there's absolutely no way a fwd is gonna outhandle a rwd. (within reason). Did I mention that my car (fully dressed) weighs in at 2100lbs?

                                  Can I drive it? I'd even make a special trip to Fergus just to do that!

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                                    weshole
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                                    CCr wrote:
                                    Can I drive it? I'd even make a special trip to Fergus just to do that!

                                    What's it worth to ya?

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                                      harwood39 wrote:
                                      Thats my goal with the civic. thats another reason why im sticking with the d-series, you dont need tons of power to road race, and d-series are cheap to fix.

                                      Anyways, I guess for shits i will thow up what i am doing to my car before spring(end of may)

                                      P29 Pistons(pistons out of a d16a6)
                                      ACL Bearings
                                      Exedy Stage 1 clutch
                                      Road race shifter
                                      FAL Flexite rear 3 windows
                                      Lexan Sunroof Plug
                                      Lexan Roll downs
                                      Falken Azenis tires
                                      D2 full Coil Overs w/ 36 way adjustable dampers
                                      Roll Cage
                                      CF trunk lid
                                      CF gas door
                                      Password 3 Point Front Bar
                                      C-Piller bar
                                      Trunk Floor bar
                                      Sparco Speed seats
                                      Harnesses
                                      Powerstop Drilled/Slotted Front Rotors
                                      EBC brake pads
                                      Rear lower Tie bar
                                      Eibach Sway bars
                                      Energy supsension poly bushings
                                      Billet motor mounts
                                      Password Front Subframe support
                                      Greddy catch can(need due to removed PCV system)
                                      Front lower h-brace
                                      RSR GTII Cat back exhaust
                                      Resonated test pipe
                                      ARC Intake
                                      Aluminum radiator
                                      Road race shifter
                                      Omni Clutch master cyl.
                                      SS Braded brake lines
                                      SS clutch line
                                      Road Race Gear Front lip/splitter
                                      J-s racing cf air duct
                                      Skunk2 Upper front control arms
                                      Skunk2 rear lower arms
                                      Skunk2 upper rear arms
                                      Remove the rest of the interior besides door panels and dash

                                      Thats why this winter is going to be expensive, family is buying me parts for my b-day and x-mas, and all my money is going into it.
                                      Isn't it about that time to make a Civic for sale thread again?

                                      It's almost been 20 days

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                                        RWD + Low Center of Gravity + Short Wheel Base + Lightweight = Street Legal GoKart.

                                        One time...

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                                          weshole
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                                          You forgot to mention a rather excellent CHASSIS!

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