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Why Miatas?

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  • wesholeW Offline
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    weshole
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    #34

    tjamz wrote:
    I dunno, people buy Mini Cooper S's for that reason wes.

    God DAMNIT! YOUR RIGHT! I retract that statement. Partially.

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      it was fun driftin in ur car Wes, hahaha....Kirk almost peed his pants.

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      • wesholeW Offline
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        weshole
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        #36

        LT1 wrote:
        it was fun driftin in ur car Wes, hahaha....Kirk almost peed his pants.

        Ya, I forgot you test drove it. Tell Harwood was up.

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          weshole wrote:
          [QUOTE=harwood39]with the right suspension and chassis mods you can get ther rear end out easily like a rear wheel, and it hold the road awsomely.

          If your sliding, your wasting momentum.[/QUOTE]
          That may be true, but done properly, it is the fastest way around a track.

          '08 Suzuki Hayabusa
          '09 Yamaha Zuma 200cc
          '95 E-350 7.5L

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          • wesholeW Offline
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            #38

            what's with all the alah camel-jockey giberish on your sig? Is it code? lol.

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              2wheeler wrote:
              That may be true, but done properly, it is the fastest way around a track.

              Exactly. my car slides out because i dont slow down before a corner, its not like i slide it sideways like a drift car, but it goes out a tiny bit. If you dont slow doen through a corner and thats why you slide out thats why its faster.

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                #40

                I got a civic with good Good suspension and im sure its not even close to nicks miata in handling..

                my .02

                Kevin Smith
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                Why does everybody brush their teeth before going to the dentist but never wash their car before bring it to me??

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                  I was able to race the MazdaSpeed Miata on 4 different road corses...the Miata corners great...it could use a larger turbo but still had great power coming out of the corners...I was amazed how the little car performed

                  POWERD BY

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                  • wesholeW Offline
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                    2wheeler wrote:
                    That may be true, but done properly, it is the fastest way around a track.

                    If I pushed my car to the point of sliding in a corner, (pushing it beyond the edge and not showboating) I would spin around at least once. Maybe I could pull out of it but it shure as hell wouldn't be fast. Setting yourself up properly to execute the corner, hitting the apex just right, and exiting the corner without loosing grip or momentum is the fastest way around a track.

                    If sliding was the fastest way around, then Michael Schumacher,Jeff gordon, And Miguel Duhamel would be the drift kings. That's my belief.

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                      #43

                      I can't claim to have any real education in track driving, but damn, I thought everyone knew that sliding is not the quickest way around a corner. If you're sliding the tires aren't making the car move in the direction it's pointed, and it's wasted energy.

                      Barry
                      "street races are for newbies and drifting is for the pros"

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                      • wesholeW Offline
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                        That's what I was taught also.

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                          weshole wrote:
                          If I pushed my car to the point of sliding in a corner, (pushing it beyond the edge and not showboating) I would spin around at least once. Maybe I could pull out of it but it shure as hell wouldn't be fast. Setting yourself up properly to execute the corner, hitting the apex just right, and exiting the corner without loosing grip or momentum is the fastest way around a track.

                          If sliding was the fastest way around, then Michael Schumacher,Jeff gordon, And Miguel Duhamel would be the drift kings. That's my belief.
                          Ah, ah, ah....now you're contradicting yourself. Miguel Duhamel DOES slide corners, as do all exceptional superbike riders. Watch a MotoGP or World Superbike race, they set themselves up for corners by "drifting" the rear end of the bike.......CAUSE ITS FASTER....the lap times have proven it. Schumacher and Gordon don't need to drift cause they have such large contact patches. If you can go into a corner at 500MPH, and have the suspension and tires to hold it, why slide? Bikes have maybe 2-5 square inches to put down 200-240HP, so sliding is faster. This is similar to what we see at local autocross events....tires and tracks that cant hold the cars' power. Shane won the Minot autocross in a stock(other than intake/cat back) S2000. He was one of the only guys that could slide the car effectively. He beat STis, Civics, other RWDs and other S2000s.

                          I agree with what you said above, in theory. Ya know, perfect world type stuff. But in real world racing, if your car can't hold the power, IMO, you can "cheat" the theory and slide.

                          '08 Suzuki Hayabusa
                          '09 Yamaha Zuma 200cc
                          '95 E-350 7.5L

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                            2wheeler wrote:
                            I agree with what you said above, in theory. Ya know, perfect world type stuff. But in real world racing, if your car can't hold the power, IMO, you can "cheat" the theory and slide.

                            I see your point. But now you tell me. Does this apply to Harwood and his FWD Civic?

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                              No, cause he's dumb. 🙂

                              Seriously, I think both the driver and car would have to be phenomenal to take advantage of it. So, not take anything away from Harwood, my answer is no.

                              '08 Suzuki Hayabusa
                              '09 Yamaha Zuma 200cc
                              '95 E-350 7.5L

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                                2wheeler wrote:
                                No, cause he's dumb. 🙂

                                Seriously, I think both the driver and car would have to be phenomenal to take advantage of it. So, not take anything away from Harwood, my answer is no.

                                I highly doubt anybody I personally know (including myself) could take advantage of it.

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                                  PSI2HI
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                                  The only gripe i have about mine is i wish 2nd gear was a little longer. Everytime i go down south and whip threw the curves im @ speeds i need to use 3rd gear but it's to low of a rpm to have enough power to pull threw so i gotta bounce 2nd off the limiter.

                                  "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                                  "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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                                    weshole
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                                    Actually, I'm anticipating that we both will want different gearing when we get em boosted. I have a feeling it will run out of legs real soon with the 4.30:1 final drive in the rear. 125mph in 5th is already making the engine sing.

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                                      TakeYourTopOff
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                                      I think the big downer on them is cause they have "chick car" rep.... but really the last body style was a 47/53 wieght distribution and the new one is 50/50 which is one of the big reasons why they handle so great....

                                      parts are inexpensive just like honda's and just as plentifull... with just as many tuners cuase it's just a great plateform to start with

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                                        weshole wrote:
                                        You forgot to mention a rather excellent CHASSIS!

                                        This quote brought to you by the makers of Jack Daniel's Whiskey. Jack Daniels, proud sponsor of Schulz Racing 🙂

                                        One time...

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                                          Sweet-WRX-Lovin wrote:
                                          This quote brought to you by the makers of Jack Daniel's Whiskey. Jack Daniels, proud sponsor of Schulz Racing 🙂

                                          That's my boy. You are my hero. And a Snufire is a chicks car. Like I stated earlier. I'm the only one in my town under 50 that even owns one. And most of them are older guys that miss their MG's and Sprites.

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