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  • 94NDTA9 Offline
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    94NDTA
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    I really don't know where to post this, so mods, you can move it to where ever you like if you feel it doesn't belong here.

    I soon will be starting a new project, deemed mostly for the track, somestreet use.
    I want my Trans Am to be a sumer Daily driver.

    To start, I have a 1994 Trans Am GT, with, some stuff. I won't go into details, because it doesn't matter right now.

    I can't decide if I want to keep the set up I have now, ~430rwhp/490rwtq, just from nitrous and bolt ons or if I want to ditch it and get a H/C set up and run anywhere from 400-430 rwhp an about 380 lb ft of TQ.

    Pros for the nitrous, allready installed, allready set up, more hp, more TQ.

    Cons for the nitrous, refils suck, more chance of breaking something, If I sold it, I wouldn't get near as much as I paid, sucks for street use (no traction, bottle warm up, etc)

    Pros for H/C set up. Higher RPM, easier to drive on the street, less weight without the nitrous set up, no refils, ready to use whenever, won't get the "nitrous is cheating" speach from every a-hole I meet, sounds cooler,

    Cons for H/C set up. Uses as tad more gas, will need more tuning, more expensive to set up, a lot of labor to put in, less power.

    Overall, I think I would have more fun with a H/C set up, I just don;t know if I can justify paying ~$1500 more.

    Give me your opinion.

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    • PSiedTSiP Offline
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      PSiedTSi
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      normally I would say go for the H/C setup because it'll be always available without refills etc but you already have your nitrous setup...I would just keep the nitrous setup and maybe build it from there eventually with a H/C setup AND nitrous when you get more money or somethin...and plus with nitrous you dont have all the power all the time on the street so it might be a little bit more streetable and since your buildng it for the track mostly nitrous is perfectly ok for the track cause its only when you decide to press the button. But what do I know I'm just an import driver 🙂

      At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

      92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
      95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
      1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
      Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

      > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
      > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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      • 94NDTA9 Offline
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        94NDTA
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        PSiedTSi wrote:
        normally I would say go for the H/C setup because it'll be always available without refills etc but you already have your nitrous setup...I would just keep the nitrous setup and maybe build it from there eventually with a H/C setup AND nitrous when you get more money or somethin...and plus with nitrous you dont have all the power all the time on the street so it might be a little bit more streetable and since your buildng it for the track mostly nitrous is perfectly ok for the track cause its only when you decide to press the button. But what do I know I'm just an import driver 🙂

        Only problem with that is, if I run a H/C/Nitrous set up for a summer DD, I will be running the LT1 really close to it's breaking point, I would almost have to rebuild and forge it. Unless I got a small H/C set up at about 360 rwhp, and put a not as large nitrous shot on it, like 75-100 shot...but then, thats a good amount of money for only 60 more hp off the bottle, and roughly the same amount of hp I would have with a nitrous set up. It would also be more complicated, turning a H/C car with nitrous.

        I see your point though

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        • HandoEXH Offline
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          HandoEX
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          With what it sounds like you want out of the car....somewhat streetable with prowess at the track...I would say keep the nitrous. If you can get more power out of the nitrous stick with that. The question I pose to you is: what is more important to you, going fast on the streets or at the track. That's what is seems to come down to.

          PS- The fucks who say "Nitrous is cheating" are fucking idiots.

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          • dubbsyD Offline
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            dubbsy
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            so this is for the driver? (the 94 you have now)

            As much as I want to say H/C, I'd probalby stay with nitrous if it's staying as a driver...
            Guess it depends.. Do you go stoplight jumpin with quite a few people? Running the car to it's limits quite often on the street... then if so, go H/C (if you're spraying that often, it's gotta get expensive)
            If you're looking for a good solid car, possibly to take a few longer trips with, and then want to hit the track on the weekends... stay nitrous.

            Guess basically I'll say it depends on how often you want the car's full potential.

            1995 Mustang
            CAI, rimz, and springs.

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            • camzaro28C Offline
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              camzaro28
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              H/C

              nitrous is for pussies

              jig 4 prez

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              • 2slo50h2 Offline
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                2slo50h
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                H/C and have fun all the time. Why mess around I am assuming you will enjoy it more with power all the time.

                Most favorite DSM Quote to date.
                "rastimg: owning a DSM is like having a retarded kid, you love it just like a normal car, but you constantly have to fix shit on it and make sure it doesnt embarrass you in public"

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                • amichezeA Offline
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                  amicheze
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                  i say stick with nitrous until you have enough money to build it and run both.. if thats an option in the future.

                  2006 Audi A3 2.0T

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                  > Fargostreet Trolls wrote:
                  > i must be stupid

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                  • torbsT Offline
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                    torbs
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                    why not boost what you got? j/w why you arent using boost as an option.

                    Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                    Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                    • PSiedTSiP Offline
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                      PSiedTSi
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                      because boost for a V8 is usually really expensive and then hed be reaching the limits of his LT1 very easily and would require a build...he already stated that

                      At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                      92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                      95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                      1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                      Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                      > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                      > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                      • torbsT Offline
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                        torbs
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                        ah, ok. didnt know that

                        Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                        Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                        • 94NDTA9 Offline
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                          94NDTA
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                          torbs wrote:
                          ah, ok. didnt know that

                          Not to mention the engine, stock comes with 10.5:1 comp ratio AND lightweight internals built to spin fast, not hold boost.

                          Plus, the cheapest s/c set up imagineable would still be more expensive than a H/C set up.

                          Turbo set ups for LT1's are mostly custom (arm, leg, first born) and the kits out there are expensive as well because there are only one or two out there.

                          Oh yeah,

                          Brian's a pussy.

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                          • A Offline
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                            adog
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                            Personally, for daily driver use, I would keep the nitrous system, since most H/C setups producing the HP you would like are probably a bit more aggressive than I would like to drive around. If it were me, I would go with forged rods and pistons first. The decision really hinges on your definition of streetable. I have to say I kind of envy you LT1 guys with nitrous, since your intake manifolds allow large wet shots without catching on fire like the LSx series occasionally do.

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                            • 24valvenotak2 Offline
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                              24valvenotak
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                              bottles are for babies.

                              seriously though, I think its fun to sit in car that lopes back and forth at idle, sounds like it is going to fall apart just sitting there, and is so loud it feels like you have a sinus infection at wot.

                              Getcher green hat, we are goin fishin.

                              > 63vette;288530 wrote:
                              > I dont know shit about building cars.

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                              • torbsT Offline
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                                torbs
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                                what about goin blown then?

                                Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                                Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                                  24valvenotak
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                                  torbs wrote:
                                  what about goin blown then?

                                  same problem...

                                  "Plus, the cheapest s/c set up imagineable would still be more expensive than a H/C set up."

                                  Getcher green hat, we are goin fishin.

                                  > 63vette;288530 wrote:
                                  > I dont know shit about building cars.

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                                  • torbsT Offline
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                                    torbs
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                                    goddamn domestics lol...well man...between the things you are asking, i say go h/c then...

                                    Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                                    Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                                      97lt1
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                                      I say go for the H/C package. I'm think I know which one you are looking at and I know you won't be dissappointed.

                                      I'm also looking at H/C packages.

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                                      • PSiedTSiP Offline
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                                        PSiedTSi
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                                        torbs wrote:
                                        what about goin blown then?

                                        dude boost and "goin blown" are 1 in the same man...boost is just less specific and brings it down to creating positive pressure someone how forced into the motor(or somethin like that) 🙂

                                        At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                                        92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                                        95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                                        1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                                        Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                                        > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                                        > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                                        • camzaro28C Offline
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                                          camzaro28
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                                          Oh yeah,

                                          Brian's a pussy.

                                          haha, just go with some AFR 215's and a 242ish cam, with a 3600 fuddle stall. possibly some 3.73's.
                                          either way ur gonna end up spending atleast 3 grand after parts and tuning just for H/C. spray 100 shot on top of it

                                          jig 4 prez

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