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  • amichezeA Offline
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    amicheze
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    i say stick with nitrous until you have enough money to build it and run both.. if thats an option in the future.

    2006 Audi A3 2.0T

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    > Fargostreet Trolls wrote:
    > i must be stupid

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    • torbsT Offline
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      torbs
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      #9

      why not boost what you got? j/w why you arent using boost as an option.

      Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
      Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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      • PSiedTSiP Offline
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        PSiedTSi
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        #10

        because boost for a V8 is usually really expensive and then hed be reaching the limits of his LT1 very easily and would require a build...he already stated that

        At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

        92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
        95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
        1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
        Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

        > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
        > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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        • torbsT Offline
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          torbs
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          #11

          ah, ok. didnt know that

          Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
          Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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          • 94NDTA9 Offline
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            #12

            torbs wrote:
            ah, ok. didnt know that

            Not to mention the engine, stock comes with 10.5:1 comp ratio AND lightweight internals built to spin fast, not hold boost.

            Plus, the cheapest s/c set up imagineable would still be more expensive than a H/C set up.

            Turbo set ups for LT1's are mostly custom (arm, leg, first born) and the kits out there are expensive as well because there are only one or two out there.

            Oh yeah,

            Brian's a pussy.

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            • A Offline
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              adog
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              Personally, for daily driver use, I would keep the nitrous system, since most H/C setups producing the HP you would like are probably a bit more aggressive than I would like to drive around. If it were me, I would go with forged rods and pistons first. The decision really hinges on your definition of streetable. I have to say I kind of envy you LT1 guys with nitrous, since your intake manifolds allow large wet shots without catching on fire like the LSx series occasionally do.

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              • 24valvenotak2 Offline
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                24valvenotak
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                #14

                bottles are for babies.

                seriously though, I think its fun to sit in car that lopes back and forth at idle, sounds like it is going to fall apart just sitting there, and is so loud it feels like you have a sinus infection at wot.

                Getcher green hat, we are goin fishin.

                > 63vette;288530 wrote:
                > I dont know shit about building cars.

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                • torbsT Offline
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                  torbs
                  wrote on last edited by
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                  what about goin blown then?

                  Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                  Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                  • 24valvenotak2 Offline
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                    24valvenotak
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                    #16

                    torbs wrote:
                    what about goin blown then?

                    same problem...

                    "Plus, the cheapest s/c set up imagineable would still be more expensive than a H/C set up."

                    Getcher green hat, we are goin fishin.

                    > 63vette;288530 wrote:
                    > I dont know shit about building cars.

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                    • torbsT Offline
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                      torbs
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                      #17

                      goddamn domestics lol...well man...between the things you are asking, i say go h/c then...

                      Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                      Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                        97lt1
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                        I say go for the H/C package. I'm think I know which one you are looking at and I know you won't be dissappointed.

                        I'm also looking at H/C packages.

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                        • PSiedTSiP Offline
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                          PSiedTSi
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                          torbs wrote:
                          what about goin blown then?

                          dude boost and "goin blown" are 1 in the same man...boost is just less specific and brings it down to creating positive pressure someone how forced into the motor(or somethin like that) 🙂

                          At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                          92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                          95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                          1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                          Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                          > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                          > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                          • camzaro28C Offline
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                            camzaro28
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                            #20

                            Oh yeah,

                            Brian's a pussy.

                            haha, just go with some AFR 215's and a 242ish cam, with a 3600 fuddle stall. possibly some 3.73's.
                            either way ur gonna end up spending atleast 3 grand after parts and tuning just for H/C. spray 100 shot on top of it

                            jig 4 prez

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                            • Sweet-WRX-LovinS Offline
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                              Sweet-WRX-Lovin
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                              #21

                              Start pimpin' out every girl you know and buy an intercooled ATI procharger. If I had a V8, this I would have to have.

                              http://procharger.com/gallery/showtemp.php?market=2&idx=1223

                              His power level isn't "amazing" but the car is hardley touched besides the charger. Sounds like from the gallery info that his tuning might not be optimal either.

                              One time...

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                              • 94NDTA9 Offline
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                                94NDTA
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                                #22

                                Sweet-WRX-Lovin wrote:
                                Start pimpin' out every girl you know and buy an intercooled ATI procharger. If I had a V8, this I would have to have.
                                The only ATI that would work on my car would yeild about the same amount of HP (without a rebuild). The car actually did have an ATI on it before I bought it, but I got the price knocked off with hi selling it to someone else. I wish I could have kept it, but I couldn't afford that much at the time, I was 16, and it was plenty of car at the time.

                                Thats the supercharger that was on my car. I beleive the kit costs $3600

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                                • camzaro28C Offline
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                                  camzaro28
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                                  #23

                                  with that S/C you will be doing a rebuild after 20k miles. u can spray a 100 shot daily into the car and run it 50k miles.

                                  dont do boost on these cars unless u have unlimited cash or lower the compression b4 u put the blower on it. its that easy

                                  jig 4 prez

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                                    Sweet-WRX-Lovin
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                                    #24

                                    Well, you are asking the wrong person here. Butt, and yes I said butt, my old man is a machinest and race car driver for over 30 years, I personally would build a cheap as possible motor running super high compresion (cheaper over the long run vs. a supercharger) but running race gas. If you aren't willing to make this sacrifice I have no hope for you. And BS on the supercharger rebuilding at 20K miles. If you have an ass monkey tunning your car maybe. I have no idea what I'm doing compared to my old man and I could get WAY more mileage out of that.

                                    One time...

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                                      dynotune
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                                      #25

                                      Heads/Cam all the way!!! If you got the jack do like a 393 lower half and some trick flow heads or if you don't, just go with the ported heads/ cam. They make great power, and coupled with the right gears, the extra RPMs help ALOT. Add a little spray on top and you'll be well into the 500 club. Fuel economy isn't too terrible bad (I have 427 LS1s getting 29.5 MPG in C5s)- you should still be able to expect 18-21. Labor is intense although- I highly suggest yanking the mo to do the swap. While your in there, you should at least do rods/ pistons while you can. F-bodies are a bitch to work on, but the results can turn out impressive when done. ATI kits are nice as well (I know a guy who can hook you up...) but depending on how far you want to go, you'll have to get forged internals anyway. N2O is harder on things (look at your bearings after spray vs. supercharge/ turbocharging) but it's pretty good bang for the buck especially if you already have the setup. DO NOT go above 12:1 or use race gas- it's not necessary at all. Every pt of compression usually nets only about 4% add'l power- not hardly worth running race gas. My $.02

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                                        camzaro28
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                                        #26

                                        well wrx guy if i was to tell u something about ur wrx, i wouldnt know to much at all to tell u. but just do some research for urself on some camaro LT1 boards and see how many guys are running blower/turbos, and see how many of them lasted. im not blowing smoke up ur ass about it.

                                        and yeah i know it harms the rings. but like i said it takes time and alot of spray of course, on a good running motor.
                                        sean go with H/C setup, dont venture into boost with an LT1 unless u can afford it twice. just a mild setup will net u 380ish. then spray 100 on top of it, and it will be a healthy motor.

                                        jig 4 prez

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                                        • Sweet-WRX-LovinS Offline
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                                          Sweet-WRX-Lovin
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                                          #27

                                          I'm from the wrong school I guess on this one. If you can't go all the way, then go cheap as possible and wait till that shizat blows up and do it again. My old man got second in the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS two years in a row on $500 or less motors. But he does know what he is doing and labor is free. If I were you I would go all out, but that is me. I wouldn't have bought a 34k+ car if I didn't believe in this philosophy. (sorry about spelling, been drinking, imagine that) And I don't care about research on boards, I've seen the real thing in real life for as long as I've been alive, if you do it RIGHT, there isn't anything to worry about. And that means covering all your bases.

                                          One time...

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