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  • RidinRailsR Offline
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    RidinRails
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    launching on the rsx..hm...well on my civic i put it to the floor and it just sits at 5000-5500...and just hope it catches vtec....and spin from 1st..2nd..and then finally get traction in 3rd...and run a 15.0 all stock 🙂

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      I launch at 7000 rpm. It does burnouts.

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        integra_gsr98 wrote:
        I launch at 7000 rpm. It does burnouts.

        Liar

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        • capitljC Offline
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          You guys are nuts. Its impossible to launch to a FWD car, well just look at the setups on the fwd drag cars there is a lot of technology and engineering in those front ends and they are still quite a bit slower than a RWD with the same power and tires. But there is way to get faster launches and honestly are those high rpm launches faster? Lower your tire pressure, it can shave a few tenths off you 60 foot and thats where you FWD guys need it. Bone up on the concept of weight transfer. Stiffening up you rear suspension will make the car squirrely at the long end but you'll get much better launches and keep the front planted. If you can adjust you ride height put the back in the air, there is a reason muscle cars have a rake. Its a delicate balance between ride quality and speed but who care about a sore ass at the end of the day. Obviously i can only give you a little bit of info in this particular arena but read, there are some pretty good tech articles in Modified Mag and the like. You can always ask some of the guys in town who have drag racers the concepts all apply except in reverse, you want to keep weight off the rear to get traction.

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          > Mitch Hedberg wrote:
          > I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.

          ASE certified parts specialist.
          2004 Impala LS 3.8

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            capitlj wrote:
            You guys are nuts. Its impossible to launch to a FWD car, well just look at the setups on the fwd drag cars there is a lot of technology and engineering in those front ends and they are still quite a bit slower than a RWD with the same power and tires. But there is way to get faster launches and honestly are those high rpm launches faster? Lower your tire pressure, it can shave a few tenths off you 60 foot and thats where you FWD guys need it. Bone up on the concept of weight transfer. Stiffening up you rear suspension will make the car squirrely at the long end but you'll get much better launches and keep the front planted. If you can adjust you ride height put the back in the air, there is a reason muscle cars have a rake. Its a delicate balance between ride quality and speed but who care about a sore ass at the end of the day. Obviously i can only give you a little bit of info in this particular arena but read, there are some pretty good tech articles in Modified Mag and the like. You can always ask some of the guys in town who have drag racers the concepts all apply except in reverse, you want to keep weight off the rear to get traction.

            Pretty sure I've got the FWD thing down.... not too many 10 second FWD street cars in this state......

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                integra_gsr98 wrote:
                Pretty sure I've got the FWD thing down.... not too many 10 second FWD street cars in this state......

                So then tell "theoblivious" how to do it, that's what the thread is about.

                It's all about NOT spinning the tires. Obviously if your tires are spinning, then you're not going as fast as you could. You really just need to find the balance between spinning and bogging. If it means slipping the clutch to keep RPMs up and in your power band, then so be it. It would help if you posted up what car, what mods, what tires, and your current launch technique.

                Troy
                2009 Yamaha R1
                2002 WRX
                2001 Toyota Tundra
                2001 Yamaha R6
                1988 Yamaha YSR 50
                2003 XR50

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                • JimJ Offline
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                  Get some good tires!

                  It depends on the car, the power your making etc... but rev it up, slip the clutch a bit till you feel it catch slightly and then get the hell out of first so you might have a chance to hook it up

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                    ticklemedaly wrote:
                    hows school going? did your parents get the ipod to ya?

                    school is going awesome. Its gonna be a ton of work already.
                    I got the Ipod thanks! Miss bein in moorhead though.

                    RSX TYPE S...HAS FINALLY COME.

                    BOOST....to be continued

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                      on gsr. i used to rev to 4500 and slip the clutch. Grabbed great On the rsx i t has a rev limiter before vtec so i bounce of that and floor the gas and slip the clutch. It has shitty tires. I guess Im asking just on technique itself thats universal to all manual fwd cars. Do you slip clutch more or do you not fully throttle the gas? Do you just try to burn through 1st (only first in my case) or should you start in 2nd?

                      Kenn

                      RSX TYPE S...HAS FINALLY COME.

                      BOOST....to be continued

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                        It's different for every car and setup just pay for a track day sometime and try different techniques until you find the sweet spot. Oh and integra gsr whats your 60 foot time you dont have that in your sig. I'm sure all your speed comes in at the far end on the track right, not that your slow off the line but i bet you could be a lot faster if you could launch without roasting the tires.

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                        > Mitch Hedberg wrote:
                        > I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.

                        ASE certified parts specialist.
                        2004 Impala LS 3.8

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                          capitlj wrote:
                          It's different for every car and setup just pay for a track day sometime and try different techniques until you find the sweet spot. Oh and integra gsr whats your 60 foot time you dont have that in your sig. I'm sure all your speed comes in at the far end on the track right, not that your slow off the line but i bet you could be a lot faster if you could launch without roasting the tires.

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                          1.766 was his 60' and a .002 reaction as well. The 1.7 can be improved on, no doubt, but its still not awful

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                            When I ran a FWD car on small slicks, I launched almost exactly how I launched my DSM. Slip the clutch until you feel the car moving, and then dump the clutch from there. If you have a weak clutch, it will just burn, but if you have a good clutch, it should take off nicely.

                            Troy
                            2009 Yamaha R1
                            2002 WRX
                            2001 Toyota Tundra
                            2001 Yamaha R6
                            1988 Yamaha YSR 50
                            2003 XR50

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                              theoblivious
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                              alright cool guys thanks for all the help!

                              RSX TYPE S...HAS FINALLY COME.

                              BOOST....to be continued

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                                capitlj wrote:
                                still quite a bit slower than a RWD with the same power and tires.

                                So you are telling me that a mustang or slomaro with 400ish whp can run low 11's (using kevin's hatch as an example)...

                                ok

                                and as far as launching goes...rev limiter...drop 😉

                                actually, I launch at around 4-5k...just depends on how much i wanna spin the tires (my sweet ass steelies y0)

                                Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                                Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                                  torbs wrote:
                                  So you are telling me that a mustang or slomaro with 400ish whp can run low 11's (using kevin's hatch as an example)...

                                  ok

                                  and as far as launching goes...rev limiter...drop 😉

                                  actually, I launch at around 4-5k...just depends on how much i wanna spin the tires (my sweet ass steelies y0)

                                  not sticking up for capitalj...but yes..if a mustang weighed the same as a civic did and it had 400hp...it would run low 11s

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                                    97slowgsx wrote:
                                    not sticking up for capitalj...but yes..if a mustang weighed the same as a civic did and it had 400hp...it would run low 11s

                                    my point is that a mustang with 400whp cant due to it's weight...my point was just that a civic with 400whp is faster than a mustang with 400hp...if you go power to weight ration and make them the same, then that's another story

                                    Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                                    Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                                      This is such a stupid argument. Weight is no the only factor. Traction, gearing, driver and suspension setup all play into it. There are mustangs with 400hp running low 11s.

                                      FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                                      > thrash;315544 wrote:
                                      > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                                      >
                                      > Ford is back :)

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                                        MisterCMK wrote:
                                        This is such a stupid argument. Weight is no the only factor. Traction, gearing, driver and suspension setup all play into it. There are mustangs with 400hp running low 11s.

                                        bc you've never said anything stupid...EVER...:p

                                        Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                                        Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                                          Nevar!

                                          The whole argument is stupid though. Like I said, there are a ton of factors plaing into it that are not even mentioned.

                                          FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                                          > thrash;315544 wrote:
                                          > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                                          >
                                          > Ford is back :)

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