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Fired the 6.0L tonight!

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  • StangerBanger96S Offline
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    StangerBanger96
    wrote on last edited by
    #11

    Like he said, if it only spun 4 or 5 revolutions and had a small amount of lube on it then it's going to be close to a hard startup. Just like a car that's been stored over winter and starts up for the first time will experience.

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    • MisterCMKM Offline
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      MisterCMK
      wrote on last edited by
      #12

      I always prime the oil system in a vehicles thats been sitting more than a month before I fire it up...

      FASTER THAN DUBBSY

      > thrash;315544 wrote:
      > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
      >
      > Ford is back :)

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      • GrrG Offline
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        Grr
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        #13

        also i would have primed it in the first place, but guess what, LS motors have a crank driven oil pump and the only way to prime them is?, you guessed it, turning the damn thing over. So i guess all the shops out there that build motors are fuckin morons for turning the engine over for ten seconds while the oil system pressurises, right? YEP, i think those 4 or 5 combustion events took the babbitt right off the bearings and i have to rebuild it now. Oh but i forgot, the whole point of this board is to bash anything that isnt yours.
        Gary

        2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
        2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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        • S Offline
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          slowvo
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          MisterCMK wrote:
          I always prime the oil system in a vehicles thats been sitting more than a month before I fire it up...

          How do you do this?

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          • XJHEADX Offline
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            XJHEAD
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            slowvo wrote:
            How do you do this?

            Some motors have the distributor drive a shaft that connects to the oil pump.
            You mark dist setting and rotor setting then you pull it out and either use a speed wrench(hard) or get a drill. Fords spin in reverse not too sure on chebby rotation clockwise I think...

            Oh something I also saw

            From: Neon John [email protected]
            Subject: Re: Oil Priming an LT1?
            Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:03:00 EDT
            Newsgroups: rec.autos.rod-n-custom

            [email protected] wrote:

            Yeap, what I was thinking to do was to squirt some oil into the piston
            chambers of all eight and disconnect the fuel pump relay (pull the
            fuse) and crank it for a while. But this, I think, could still be to
            hard on an engine that has been sleeping for so long. I was looking
            for other solutions. Any of you guys ever heard of preassure priming?
            I don't know how it works, but I believe it involves compressed air.
            And of course there is the external electric pump, but last time I
            checked it was in the upper $400. (not an option).

            I have a rig I use on all new engine starts. It consists of a
            stainless steel 5 gal Coke syrup can equipped with a schrader air
            valve, a hose, a ball valve and a check valve. The tank is filled
            with 2 gallons of oil, pressurized to 100 psi and the end of the
            hose with the check valve and ball valve is screwed into the oil
            sender port. Or in the unusual event the sender isn't easily
            accessible, I use a modified freon side tapper to pierce the side of
            an oil filter and tap in there.

            In use, the can is sat on refrigerant scales (just because I have
            'em), the ball valve turned on and when the scales indicate about a
            gallon of oil has flowed in the engine and oil is visible through
            the oil filler hole, the engine is fired. The oil is allowed to
            continue to flow until the scales indicate the proper quantity of
            oil is in the engine. The 100 psi air pressure in the can will
            override the oil pump and lift its relief valve at fast idle. The
            check valve prevents any oil from being pumped back to the tank in
            the event the air pressure is too low. When the correct amount of
            oil is in the engine, turn the ball valve and continue with the cam
            break-in procedure.

            The advantage of this procedure is a) it's cheap - the tank can be
            had at flea markets or even from Coke, b) it fills the filter, the
            galleys and primes the pump, c) one can verify proper oil flow
            BEFORE firing the engine for the first time, and d) you don't have
            to fool with any sort of priming tool and the attendant risk of
            damage to the engine or of dropping something down the hole.

            If you don't have scales, you can simply put the correct amount of
            oil in the tank and flow it in until you see bubbles in the line
            indicating the tank is getting empty. I use the fabric reinforced
            plastic hose that the coke company uses. If that is not available,
            one can use the clear fabric reinforced PVC hose available at Lowes,
            Home Depot and the like.

            7.64 @ 187 3400 lbs. on KORN
            TTSBF
            RTCTTFMF PTOSITW

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            • XJHEADX Offline
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              XJHEAD
              wrote on last edited by
              #16

              http://www.jasperengines.com/pdf/FordEngineOilPrimingTB.pdf

              7.64 @ 187 3400 lbs. on KORN
              TTSBF
              RTCTTFMF PTOSITW

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              • S Offline
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                slowvo
                wrote on last edited by
                #17

                uhh...i know how to do it, and have before.

                just wanted to know the quick way thats done whenever an engine sits for over a month.

                sounds like a lot of work to me..

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                • XJHEADX Offline
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                  XJHEAD
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #18

                  You can crank it over too. Short spurts. Just make sure you aren't dumping fuel into the engine. Most engines will not dump fuel at WOT when cranking.

                  7.64 @ 187 3400 lbs. on KORN
                  TTSBF
                  RTCTTFMF PTOSITW

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                  • DaveHD Offline
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                    DaveH
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    XJHEAD wrote:
                    You can crank it over too. Short spurts. Just make sure you aren't dumping fuel into the engine. Most engines will not dump fuel at WOT when cranking.

                    I just unhook the injectors and then crank away with the plugs out. Taking the plugs out makes it so there is no force put on the bearings while you crank it.

                    DaveH
                    '94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph

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                    • D Offline
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                      dynotune
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                      #20

                      the best way to do the ls motor is to pack the pump when you assemble the engine (with assy lube, pet jelly, whatever). Then crank it with the plugs out until you see pressure, and tadda! yer done. But if you crank it with no oil in it, the pump can/ will lose it's prime pretty easy. I've done quite a few of these, and this seems to work the best. No, you didn't hurt anything when you did that obviously, but it didn't help. Good luck... I got a 6.0L (402) going in a C5 right now also, but equipped with a pair of 67s :icon_thumright:

                      DynoTune Speed & Performance
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                      • XJHEADX Offline
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                        XJHEAD
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #21

                        dynotune wrote:
                        . I got a 6.0L (402) going in a C5 right now also, but equipped with a pair of 67s :icon_thumright:

                        :icon_puke_r:

                        7.64 @ 187 3400 lbs. on KORN
                        TTSBF
                        RTCTTFMF PTOSITW

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