R35 Skyline GTR- 11.67@111mph hitting speed limiter
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Bench Racing FTL
Point is, nobody on here can drive a GT-R or a Z06 at 10/10ths. It's a matter of what you like, and I think the GT-R offers a lot to like.
It will be interesting to see what they do to them in the US market -- in Japan the car is ridiculous... the ECU is tied into a GPS receiver.. you cannot exceed a certain speed unless you're at a known race track. Immediately after going to the track you need a "post track" service at a Nissan dealer for $1k.. wheels cannot be changed, etc etc. Total cock-up IMO.
It remains to be seen what kind of gayness accompanies the GT-R in the USA.
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Sweet Ass car in person though....:D
R.I.P 1QK_PNY:icon_salut:
Current Ride-1983 Mustang GT T-top. 03 GSXR 750.
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If we are comparing apples to apples the ZR-1 is the one you have to look at for competition for the GTR just because of the price tags. I love the R34s and the R33s are very sexy IMO. The new one well its not ugly but I'm not going to call it sexy either.
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capitlj;208651 wrote:
If we are comparing apples to apples the ZR-1 is the one you have to look at for competition for the GTR just because of the price tags.What the hell are you talking about? GT-R has same price as Z06.
The GT-R is being labeled as the car that is faster than the 911 Turbo at less cost. That was their intent, and they achieved it. Nissan didn't set the Z06 as their goal because the 911 and GT-R have been rivals in the European racing circles. You never hear about this because the majority of everyone in the USA cares about NASCAR and drag racing.
-Peter
1991 240SX
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Oh man you know what supercar I want to win?
Seriously, this thread should be called "what's faster, my astrovan or my malibu" cause it makes just about as much sense.
The R35 like it or hate it is a supercar. So get over your penis waving and just realize that it's an incredible machine that eats roads.
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I stand corrected, I thought the GTR's were in the 85 to 90k range. Base models are listed at 71k, thats ZO6 territory for sure. Did anyone say something bad about the Skyline, besides the asthetics? Its not a very good looking car but noone is disputing its fast as hell. Just it could have been better, lighter, faster, more of a skyline, and less of something that, I think, was designed with a big eye toward the US market. Its lost some of its thunder just because they are selling it here. Don't get me wrong I'm happy that we can finally get the Skyline here, it just seems like a case of "Never meet your heroes."
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I don't even know how you guys are comparing the Z06 to the R35......
it is not even really close, just look at the stock power:weights
If you stuck some stickies on the vette it would work the R35 on any type of course/racing you could think of....
sorry physics doen't lie........... weight FTL
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^ True.
I'm interested to see how 450 awhp + technology will match up against 500 rwhp + rip-the-seat-off-your-pants-torque.
I've got the issue of C&D where the Z06 faced off against the 997 Turbo and F430. The Vette ran faster lap times, dusted both on the highway, but C&D still slammed the C6-Z on interior and braking, and placed the car in third! I can understand braking, and yes, the Ferrari interior is FAR superior, but still...
I'm not hating on the Z06. It is the best performance car for the money, no questions. All I am saying is that I am eager to see if the GT-R can take that title away from it.
Nissan has a battle ahead of it because of the fact that they're Nissan, and not Ferrari, TVR, Jaguar, or any of the other supercar-esque namesakes. People looking for cars in that price range are going to have a hard time looking beyond the name unless they are a true enthusiast, which is the group that ALL GT-R's have been made for, IMO.
-Peter
1991 240SX
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I have driven a C5 from the pictures I've seen the interiors are not that different and I was pretty comfy in the C5, enough so to say I actually liked it. As far as the ferrari and the porsche go, well when you spend 20k on the material for your interior it had better be freaking amazing.
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That's the thing though. The average enthusiast cannot afford such high-dollar cars. The people in that tax bracket are going to get a Corvette if that's what they want, and they could care less about the interior since it's all about outer image to most people that buy these cars. Same goes for Ferrari and Lamborghini, and Boxster owners.
-Peter
1991 240SX
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zbrown;208817 wrote:
I don't even know how you guys are comparing the Z06 to the R35......it is not even really close, just look at the stock power:weights
If you stuck some stickies on the vette it would work the R35 on any type of course/racing you could think of....
sorry physics doen't lie........... weight FTL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times
The R35 has a better published Nurburgring lap time than any corvette.
The LF-A prototype is even faster, apparently, but not listed in the above lap chart.
It may be that the Vette can throw down a faster lap, but it hasn't yet done so. Nissan understood all along that the target car for the R35 was the 997 Turbo, and that that to get respect you run at the Nurburgring. They did that and the R35 delivered.
GM either doesn't get it, does't have the car to do it, or doesn't care. It's worth noting that the CTS-V was heavily tuned there, so its not inconceivable that the Vette got some of the same treatment..
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so sick
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