What will be the next BIG THING....??
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delslow;295333 wrote:
corwin honda on leak down tests: "fuck em, we don't need em. Its much faster to just not do them."his warranty does not pay for diagnostics items on a new motor that was supposed to be good. Why would someone assume that it had a bad headgasket? Shit happens with used motors, you cant expect everything to be wrong and pre diagnose something without concerns.
the corwin service warranty is covering the repair from the motor now so it really doesnt matter. its being taken care of the way it should be.
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PVC SQUAD MEMBER #2- 95 CIVIC EX- DD 320whp on a mustang dyno
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SPANISH-RICE;295415 wrote:
his warranty does not pay for diagnostics items on a new motor that was supposed to be good. Why would someone assume that it had a bad headgasket? Shit happens with used motors, you cant expect everything to be wrong and pre diagnose something without concerns.the corwin service warranty is covering the repair from the motor now so it really doesnt matter. its being taken care of the way it should be.
what about my $200 in diagnosing a fuse? it took a tech 2 hrs to find a fuse was missing? seriously not impressed at this point.
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Corwin Honda on Leak down tests: "fuck em, we don't need em. Its much faster to just not do them."
Do any of you tuner wannabees even know how to do a leak down test. Obviously not since a leak down test is to check for sealing valves and rings. So stop acting like you know what your talking about, and lay off. If it wasnt for corwins matt would be with out a motor hes lucky hes getting what he got. Im sure the warranty company wouldnt mind hearing how the motor was taking out of the car for a year before they submitted a claim. -
zex-ftw;295485 wrote:
Corwin Honda on Leak down tests: "fuck em, we don't need em. Its much faster to just not do them."
Do any of you tuner wannabees even know how to do a leak down test. Obviously not since a leak down test is to check for sealing valves and rings. So stop acting like you know what your talking about, and lay off. If it wasnt for corwins matt would be with out a motor hes lucky hes getting what he got. Im sure the warranty company wouldnt mind hearing how the motor was taking out of the car for a year before they submitted a claim.Uhhh.....you do realize that a leak-down tester can test bad head gaskets too, right? Perhaps you are the one who should stop acting like you know what you are talking about and lay off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_gasket wrote:
Gasket problemsOccasionally, the compression in the cylinder will cause a leak to form in the gasket and the gasket will have to be replaced, or severe damage can take place (a "blown" head gasket). This problem has been exacerbated by the use of aluminum rather than iron cylinder heads; while lighter than iron, aluminum has a much greater thermal expansion rate, which in turn causes a great deal more stress to be placed on the head gasket. Engine makers have responded to this by adding a non-stick coating such as Teflon to the surface of the head gasket.
If the gasket fails, a variety of problems can occur, from compression loss (leading to power reduction, or a rough engine), to exhaust gases being forced into the cooling system, leading to the engine overheating and increased engine wear due to the motor oil being mixed with antifreeze. Coolant can leak into the cylinders, causing the exhaust to issue steam[3] and the catalytic converter to be damaged. If a very large amount of coolant does this, hydrolock can occur, causing extensive engine damage. Sometimes, all that may happen when a head gasket is blown is excessive steam erupting from the tailpipe; yet the engine may act and drive like normal, until all the coolant is gone and the engine overheats.
A damaged head gasket can cause compression to leak between cylinders.Head gasket condition can be investigated by checking the compression pressure with a pressure gauge, or better, a leak-down test, and/or noting any indication of combustion gasses in the cooling system on a water-cooled engine. Oil mixed with coolant and excessive coolant loss with no apparent cause, or presence of carbon monoxide or hydrocarbon gases in the expansion tank of the cooling system can also be signs of head gasket problems.
Driving with a blown head gasket (if possible) can cause additional extensive damage due to overheating or loss of lubrication.
Blue exhaust smoke may be indicative of oil burning. White exhaust smoke is an indicator of coolant burning, another sign of head gasket wear. -
zex-ftw;295485 wrote:
Corwin Honda on Leak down tests: "fuck em, we don't need em. Its much faster to just not do them."
Do any of you tuner wannabees even know how to do a leak down test. Obviously not since a leak down test is to check for sealing valves and rings. So stop acting like you know what your talking about, and lay off. If it wasnt for corwins matt would be with out a motor hes lucky hes getting what he got. Im sure the warranty company wouldnt mind hearing how the motor was taking out of the car for a year before they submitted a claim.I was wondering the same thing. Im still gunna go with abuse that took out the engine but hey..... what do i know? Matt is extremely lucky he is getting what he is getting.
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car
Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.
Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall
Torque is how far you take the wall with you -
im trying to be civil, im not trying to get into a heated debate. all im saying is that wills comment was was uncalled for. the fuse thing i dont know much about but i remember hearing a little about it and not being impressed also. sometimes flat rate works out for the customer sometimes for the tech, thats the nature of flat rate.
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PVC SQUAD MEMBER #2- 95 CIVIC EX- DD 320whp on a mustang dyno
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wow you aint got a clue what your talking about anybody can copy and paste how to test for a bad head gasket. unless the motor is totally running like shit and smoking a leak down test isnt goin to tell you shit. and in matts case his engine was running fine. plus it was a used motor from a junk yard, you got no clue how a dealership works if a tech isnt getting paid to look at it he isnt working on it. all they were suppose to do was install the used motor that was sent to them not diagnose underlying conditions.
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zex-ftw;295498 wrote:
wow you aint got a clue what your talking about anybody can copy and paste how to test for a bad head gasket. unless the motor is totally running like shit and smoking a leak down test isnt goin to tell you shit.Um, that is the whole idea behind the leakdown test, it tells you on a percentage basis how much you are leaking down, so you can notice small issues......good post honda-tech.
And Brandon, since when has anything Will ever posted matter?? You know who he is and what he does....
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zex-ftw;295498 wrote:
wow you aint got a clue what your talking about anybody can copy and paste how to test for a bad head gasket. unless the motor is totally running like shit and smoking a leak down test isnt goin to tell you shit. and in matts case his engine was running fine. plus it was a used motor from a junk yard, you got no clue how a dealership works if a tech isnt getting paid to look at it he isnt working on it. all they were suppose to do was install the used motor that was sent to them not diagnose underlying conditions.You take a gamble when buying a used engine. Bad luck?
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car
Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.
Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall
Torque is how far you take the wall with you -
zex-ftw;295485 wrote:
Corwin Honda on Leak down tests: "fuck em, we don't need em. Its much faster to just not do them."
Do any of you tuner wannabees even know how to do a leak down test. Obviously not since a leak down test is to check for sealing valves and rings. So stop acting like you know what your talking about, and lay off. If it wasnt for corwins matt would be with out a motor hes lucky hes getting what he got. Im sure the warranty company wouldnt mind hearing how the motor was taking out of the car for a year before they submitted a claim.seriously who the fuck are you? No corwin didn't save my ass. the warranty company knew the engine was pulled you dumb fuck. they don't just give $6k to just anyone. the adjuster was out looking at everything for about 3 hrs one day. But you would know that right?
Listen if any and i mean ANY sort of test drive was done they would have found the problem of NO HEAT. What does that mean you could ask. I would say poor bleeding of the coolant as the car overheated after i turned the heat on? weird, a i thought that was basics of auto maintenance.
Maybe the head gasket blew cause of that or maybe it was leaking from the get go. but don't tell me I'm fucking lucky to have this shit happen.
Now onto the fact you know everything, why does it take them weeks to finish this engine swap when it would have been a day tops for me. I know how hard it was i pulled the fucking thing.
what about the clutch issue?
what about the 2 cam sensors that were broke putting it in?
what about the valve cover which i explained i wanted replaced to the new engine not getting put on? can they not listen?
should i continue?
Brandon I'm not mad at you in any way, i know you have no control over this. It just really lame as they seem to not give a shit that it's an s2000, and fuck the rusty engine parts and scratched to shit valve cover. It's sad based on how much they got payed to do the work.
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ruthless351;295494 wrote:
I was wondering the same thing. Im still gunna go with abuse that took out the engine but hey..... what do i know? Matt is extremely lucky he is getting what he is getting.Well let me know next time that a "sports car" is to be driven nicely. i had no clue.
But really if you knew anything about f20c's you would know they have issues with spring retainers cracking due to the high rev's and over rev's. I can admit i missed a few gear when i was younger with the car which couldn't have helped. but it shouldn't let go at 23k that's just common sense.
How am i "extremely lucky" i paid for a $1800 warrenty that covered everything for 6yr/60,000 miles. there no i got lucky part.
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zex-ftw;295498 wrote:
wow you aint got a clue what your talking about anybody can copy and paste how to test for a bad head gasket. unless the motor is totally running like shit and smoking a leak down test isnt goin to tell you shit. and in matts case his engine was running fine. plus it was a used motor from a junk yard, you got no clue how a dealership works if a tech isnt getting paid to look at it he isnt working on it. all they were suppose to do was install the used motor that was sent to them not diagnose underlying conditions.You said leak down tests are not used for head gaskets. I proved you wrong, now STFU and GTFO!
Do any of you tuner wannabees even know how to do a leak down test. Obviously not since a leak down test is to check for sealing valves and rings.
I never said anything about Matt's car in particular. I just pointed out how wrong you were. I can keep going if you want, I can follow every post you make on this site and make fun of you if you prefer.
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zex-ftw;295485 wrote:
Corwin Honda on Leak down tests: "fuck em, we don't need em. Its much faster to just not do them."
Do any of you tuner wannabees even know how to do a leak down test. Obviously not since a leak down test is to check for sealing valves and rings. So stop acting like you know what your talking about, and lay off. If it wasnt for corwins matt would be with out a motor hes lucky hes getting what he got. Im sure the warranty company wouldnt mind hearing how the motor was taking out of the car for a year before they submitted a claim.lol... i was there when it was pulled out...
and even if it wasnt warrantied i'm sure mommy woulda bought him a new one...
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