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  • DaveHD Offline
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    DaveH
    wrote on last edited by
    #19

    -10 AN here also.

    DaveH
    '94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph

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    • zbrownZ Offline
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      zbrown
      wrote on last edited by
      #20

      XJHEAD;297042 wrote:
      I was running a -8 N/A and spray. Now a -10

      DaveH;297058 wrote:
      -10 AN here also.

      lol that means -8 for me,

      what regulators for you guys, and do you have a filter pre and post pump?

      I should have just named this thread ..."the really fast guys' fuel systems" haha

      thanks

      rx7-8.89@157mph
      12v dodge, twins

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      • ChristianC Offline
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        Christian
        wrote on last edited by
        #21

        -10 AN for me too and -8 back . Just do it right the first time so you only have to do it once.

        Playtime Performance
        93 Mustang 6.0l ... 9.99 @ 136
        06 F-150 Lariat

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        • XJHEADX Offline
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          XJHEAD
          wrote on last edited by
          #22

          zbrown;297065 wrote:
          What regulators for you guys, and do you have a filter pre and post pump?

          I had the Aeromotive on the Cobra, when I had two pumps on that it was not returning enough of the fuel to the return line. I borrowed Dave's Weldon and it cleared that right up. The Orange car had a Weldon on it. With both pumps running base pressure goes up maybe 2-3 lbs at idle. Either one should be fine. Also run two filters, one before the pump and one after.

          Christian;297072 wrote:
          -10 AN for me too and -8 back . Just do it right the first time so you only have to do it once.

          Please read the quote below..:icon_rabbit:

          zbrown;297065 wrote:
          I should have just named this thread ..."the really fast guys' fuel systems" haha

          thanks

          7.64 @ 187 3400 lbs. on KORN
          TTSBF
          RTCTTFMF PTOSITW

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          • zbrownZ Offline
            zbrownZ Offline
            zbrown
            wrote on last edited by
            #23

            You guys run and bend hardline the length of the car or just run SS braided the whole way up?

            thanks for the input:icon_thumleft:

            rx7-8.89@157mph
            12v dodge, twins

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            • DaveHD Offline
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              DaveH
              wrote on last edited by
              #24

              I run an Aeromotive Pro pre-filter and a Aeromitive standard post filter. Braided line the whole way, no hardlines.

              I have -12AN line from the fuel cell to the pump, then -10AN from the pump up to the engine bay, I have a Y-block in the engine bay where it splits to two -8AN lines and each -8AN line goes to an end of the fuel rail. I got the Weldon 2040 regulator.

              DaveH
              '94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph

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              • XJHEADX Offline
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                XJHEAD
                wrote on last edited by
                #25

                Aeroquip Push-lock is a cheaper alternative from cell/tank to the engine bay. It is a very durable hose.
                http://www.aeroquip.cc/fbv0800fc332-08aeroquipsocketlesspush-onhosehightempfc332-8.aspx

                7.64 @ 187 3400 lbs. on KORN
                TTSBF
                RTCTTFMF PTOSITW

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                • MisterCMKM Offline
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                  MisterCMK
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #26

                  XJHEAD;296969 wrote:
                  I have a Weldon 2035. Pressure started dropping at about 1250 rwhp at the track. I added my old Accel DFI pump that I used on the Cobra. It flows about the same as the 2035. They aren't too bad if mounted properly. Here is the video of the Weldon that was bolted right to the car with no isolators.

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qc07FKciTc

                  If I can make room I am going belt drive this winter.. I don't like the idea of two pumps.

                  Sounds like tornado sirens. :fork:

                  FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                  > thrash;315544 wrote:
                  > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                  >
                  > Ford is back :)

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                  • MisterCMKM Offline
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                    MisterCMK
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #27

                    Parker;296974 wrote:
                    Silly electronic fuel pumps...

                    Silly carburetors

                    FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                    > thrash;315544 wrote:
                    > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                    >
                    > Ford is back :)

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                    • zbrownZ Offline
                      zbrownZ Offline
                      zbrown
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #28

                      DaveH;297088 wrote:
                      I run an Aeromotive Pro pre-filter and a Aeromitive standard post filter. Braided line the whole way, no hardlines.

                      I have -12AN line from the fuel cell to the pump, then -10AN from the pump up to the engine bay, I have a Y-block in the engine bay where it splits to two -8AN lines and each -8AN line goes to an end of the fuel rail. I got the Weldon 2040 regulator.

                      thanks

                      XJHEAD;297128 wrote:
                      Aeroquip Push-lock is a cheaper alternative from cell/tank to the engine bay. It is a very durable hose.
                      http://www.aeroquip.cc/fbv0800fc332-08aeroquipsocketlesspush-onhosehightempfc332-8.aspx

                      I have always wondered about the push-lock stuff, never knew if it was any good so i have never tried it

                      maybe I'll give it a try, thanks

                      rx7-8.89@157mph
                      12v dodge, twins

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                      • ParkerP Offline
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                        Parker
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #29

                        push lock works very good...

                        10 Jeep
                        10 F450
                        08 F250
                        05 F350
                        86 rx7
                        70 F100
                        63 Olds

                        > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                        > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                        > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                        > You are right Parker.

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                        • zbrownZ Offline
                          zbrownZ Offline
                          zbrown
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #30

                          Parker;297153 wrote:
                          push lock works very well...

                          fxt

                          rx7-8.89@157mph
                          12v dodge, twins

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                          • ParkerP Offline
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                            Parker
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #31

                            zbrown;297158 wrote:
                            fxt
                            Oh, you got me good fucker.....

                            10 Jeep
                            10 F450
                            08 F250
                            05 F350
                            86 rx7
                            70 F100
                            63 Olds

                            > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                            > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                            > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                            > You are right Parker.

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                            • MisterCMKM Offline
                              MisterCMKM Offline
                              MisterCMK
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #32

                              Stupid farmers...

                              FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                              > thrash;315544 wrote:
                              > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                              >
                              > Ford is back :)

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                              • 00Ws6TransAm0 Offline
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                                00Ws6TransAm
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #33

                                zbrown;296962 wrote:
                                How loud are the Weldon pumps? is the pump like you have good for continuous use or no?

                                I picked up a Magnafuel 4301

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                                Any of you heard good or bad about these pumps?

                                FWIW

                                I have been using that exact pump for the last 2 years. It is a great pump, I had one issue with it overheating, but after sending it in and them fixing for free its been flawless. It was 95 when it overheated, i havent heard of such problems with other users though. There was older style wear plates in there that expanded and locked it up when overly hot.

                                I have a 74micron pre filter and a 40micron post filter. I have part #'s if you want and it will save you money buying direct rather than through a vendor.
                                -8feed and -6 return (Stainless all the way)
                                Line runs in one rail across the front through the other, out the back,and into the magnafuel fuel pressure regulator.
                                Depending on your power goals you may want to increase line sizes.

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                                • zbrownZ Offline
                                  zbrownZ Offline
                                  zbrown
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #34

                                  00Ws6TransAm;297656 wrote:
                                  FWIW

                                  I have been using that exact pump for the last 2 years. It is a great pump, I had one issue with it overheating, but after sending it in and them fixing for free its been flawless. It was 95 when it overheated, i havent heard of such problems with other users though. There was older style wear plates in there that expanded and locked it up when overly hot.

                                  I have a 74micron pre filter and a 40micron post filter. I have part #'s if you want and it will save you money buying direct rather than through a vendor.
                                  -8feed and -6 return (Stainless all the way)
                                  Line runs in one rail across the front through the other, out the back,and into the magnafuel fuel pressure regulator.
                                  Depending on your power goals you may want to increase line sizes.

                                  thanks for the info! glad to hear you have had good luck with it.

                                  I already picked up my plumbing supplies sadly 😞 ... got a magnafuel 74 micron and 10 micron filters... and the big magnafuel 9950 regulator with -8 return

                                  some of you may think i am retarded but i plan to run my regulator in the back of the car....going to run a high static fuel pressure and un-referenced.

                                  I like the simplicity in the engine bay with no fuel plumbing there... i will see how it works like that, i can always change to referenced

                                  will be -10 to the pump... -8 to the FPR.... -8 from FPR up to the front rail... and a -8 return from the FPR right to the tank

                                  -8 will support 1k hp.... I am not crazy like some of you guys so it will suffice 😉

                                  rx7-8.89@157mph
                                  12v dodge, twins

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                                  • XJHEADX Offline
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                                    XJHEAD
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #35

                                    What fuel pressure are you going to run? How are you going to feed the rails?

                                    7.64 @ 187 3400 lbs. on KORN
                                    TTSBF
                                    RTCTTFMF PTOSITW

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                                    • zbrownZ Offline
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                                      zbrown
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #36

                                      XJHEAD;297688 wrote:
                                      What fuel pressure are you going to run? How are you going to feed the rails?

                                      IIRC most gm stuff is all now 58 psi

                                      I will probably start at around 65-70psi (the injectors i got are supposed to be great and happy at high pressures)

                                      if i run into heating the fuel too much i will stick a cooler in the return line because there is alot of room back there

                                      vette guys make as much power as i want on stock fuel lines with the stock unreferenced FPR in the back so i dont think i will have any problems at boost levels less than 15psi

                                      all i will have going forward is one -8 right up to the rail...

                                      rail will be modded like this with the addition of a -8 feed...(with stock feed cut off flush and plugged, though still acting as a cross over)

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                                      So am i really retarded or just sorta?? haha

                                      rx7-8.89@157mph
                                      12v dodge, twins

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                                      • D Offline
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                                        dynotune
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #37

                                        gas or korn? ls1 intake or ls6? seen the fuel system thing done a whole buncha times, but why not boost reference it? 15 lbs on 370 in LS motor is a pile of power, 60s def wont cut it on korn with no boost reference... just my experience. The higher pressure you run on your pump, the faster it runs outta steam (exponentially) you probably know this, but fyi. If you are on gas, you wont get your fuel trims to settle on 60s at 65-70 base FP. If it is reference @ 58 it will work (50 psi @ idle) On E85 that set-up runs out about 560 (procharged, prob about 600+/- turbo)to the tire on a returnless. IIRC, that set-up is good for low 700s on gas.

                                        DynoTune Speed & Performance
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                                        • JoelJ Offline
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                                          Joel
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                                          #38

                                          I think He plans on running 91 and a meth kit...

                                          no race car? becuz homeowner...

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