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Aug 6&7 Street Legal Times

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  • DaveHD Offline
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    DaveH
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    #54

    91nbtsi wrote:
    Yes, you have a good argument. BUT, for myself, and most others on this board, the car is just never fast enough!! Maybe you could put a 50trim(green) on your car, and call it good, I would not be able to do that. I am pretty sure I am going to get another DSM, I miss going fast. It will have a really big turbo, and really high boost;) Maybe I will get yours and Kark's approval to use race gas in even!

    Basically, it all depends on what you want out of your car. I started playing with smaller turbos, 60trims;) Just kept moving up.

    I'm in the same boat as Nate, you'll notice that the turbo in my car keeps getting larger every year.

    DaveH
    '94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph

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      91nbtsi
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      DaveH wrote:
      😄

      Haha, I like your addition to his quote there Dave. Nice touch;)

      [email protected] -- DSM
      07 Mega Cab 5.9 CTD

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        integra_gsr98
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        Hahaha. Nice Dave.

        Bigger = better right?

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          91nbtsi wrote:
          Maybe I will get yours and Kark's approval to use race gas in even!

          I've always been a fan of race gas, I run 111 whenever I'm at the track and usually run a blend of 111 and 92 the rest of the time.

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            #58

            maybe I too will someday build a car that is designed to be a track monster, until then I will work at making my car as fast as it can be with the current parts.

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            • Turbo5OhT Offline
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              integra_gsr98 wrote:
              Fast spool + wicked fast car = not gonna happen unless it's a v8. 😉

              you mean not everyones car is at full boost at 2700rpm? boy that must suck!
              (just had to rub it in a little)

              p.s. race gas is for girls

              LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING ' HOLY SHIT.....WHAT A RIDE'

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                Turbo5Oh wrote:
                you mean not everyones car is at full boost at 2700rpm? boy that must suck!
                (just had to rub it in a little)

                p.s. race gas is for girls

                Yeah but also consider turbo 4 cylinders are revving out to 8k, 9k and even higher. We arent seeing full boost until 5k.. but that leaves us 3-4k of power range.

                Yeah a v8 spools faster, but it wont rev out as much either, when it comes down to it, a turbo 4 cylinder and a turbo v8 have about the same 3-4k power range.

                95 TSi AWD
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                522whp/414wtq
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                11.3@129mph

                Procharged 99 Corvette

                95 LS6 Mustang

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                • 91nbtsi9 Offline
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                  91nbtsi
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                  tjamz wrote:
                  I've always been a fan of race gas, I run 111 whenever I'm at the track and usually run a blend of 111 and 92 the rest of the time.

                  I swear you and Kark were saying race gas was a waste of time...see below:

                  STiSchucky wrote:
                  some gay time like 13.4.

                  im never running race gas again. overrated shit.

                  tjamz wrote:
                  I've said that before too..........

                  That is what I thought 😛 Oh, and I consider 111 piss, C16 is race gas! Just kidding, but it is a world of difference between the two. I will never use 110 or 111 or whatever again, just the really expensive stuff that made my car run way better.

                  Turbo5Oh wrote:
                  you mean not everyones car is at full boost at 2700rpm? boy that must suck!
                  (just had to rub it in a little)

                  p.s. race gas is for girls

                  Schell, I would hope your car spools then because you only get to rev to what, 5500? heh.

                  You are just mad because your block would split in half if you tried to run enough boost that you needed race fuel 😄

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                  07 Mega Cab 5.9 CTD

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                    Chuck, your missing the major point here of what i said pages ago especially regarding the FP Red, that turbo is a 60-1 based turbo they do not spoool that quickly, the Garrett GT30 BB series turbo's A. Spool faster, and B. Make more power than a 60-1 will unless you are running low boost levels say 15 psi or less.

                    "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                    "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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                      95TsiAWD wrote:
                      Yeah a v8 spools faster, but it wont rev out as much either, when it comes down to it, a turbo 4 cylinder and a turbo v8 have about the same 3-4k power range.

                      torque is pretty sweet thing to have also

                      LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING ' HOLY SHIT.....WHAT A RIDE'

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                        Nate..on the race gas thing, I said that the first time I ran, but at the time I was only running a boost controller and exhaust and thought I wasn't gaining anything from the race gas (which I probably wasn't, car wasn't knocking, I was only running 16psi on stock turbo, etc...) Once I stepped up to a larger turbo (though still small by your guys standards) and got on the dyno I realized that the diff between 111 and 92 in regards to safe power was about...oh....45 whp. I became a believer after that.

                        Nick T.: Yes, the Red is BASED on the 60-1, but the current version of the Red designed & flanged for the WRX/STi spools ages before a traditional 60-1 would. They are currently ball bearing and full boost is achieved by ~4300 RPM on a 2.0 Liter and ~3900 RPM on a 2.5 Liter.

                        Schell: I agree, torque is nice....thats why I have a suby...heh

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                          91nbtsi
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                          Turbo5Oh wrote:
                          torque is pretty sweet thing to have also

                          Yes it is, which is why I had 426 lb-ft of it in my talon, well more than that but when I tried to dyno on a good tune, my clutch was shot.

                          [email protected] -- DSM
                          07 Mega Cab 5.9 CTD

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                            On the topic............ Best I could run on pump gas on saturday was a 12.0 @ 114 w/ a 1.66 60ft. Then on sunday on the leaded 111 gas and more boost, best I could run was a 11.59 @ 121 w/ a 1.70 60 ft. Note that there had been NO tuning done before the drags at all. So I had to do some on the track. But with the hot ass weather I was always getting knock in 4th gear, sometimes even 3rd gear.

                            Troy
                            2009 Yamaha R1
                            2002 WRX
                            2001 Toyota Tundra
                            2001 Yamaha R6
                            1988 Yamaha YSR 50
                            2003 XR50

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                              PSI2HI
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                              Joe's GT3076 see's full boost right around if not before 4000rpm.

                              From looking @ the FP's for the WRX they appear to be dry housings which would mean they are standard conventionl bearing not BB

                              "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                              "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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                                PSiedTSi
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                                you should always go one step bigger than what you want lol...after having the 50trim im thinkin maybe nothin smaller on the 240 when the time comes...im lookin at a GT3071R 🙂 people have been making close if not 400whp on pump gas @ about 19psi or so

                                At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                                92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                                95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                                1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                                Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                                > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                                > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                                  DaveH
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                                  treimche wrote:
                                  On the topic............ Best I could run on pump gas on saturday was a 12.0 @ 114 w/ a 1.66 60ft. Then on sunday on the leaded 111 gas and more boost, best I could run was a 11.59 @ 121 w/ a 1.70 60 ft. Note that there had been NO tuning done before the drags at all. So I had to do some on the track. But with the hot ass weather I was always getting knock in 4th gear, sometimes even 3rd gear.

                                  Your car looked and sounded really good with more boost. 🙂

                                  DaveH
                                  '94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph

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                                    dubbsy
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                                    Turbo5Oh wrote:
                                    torque is pretty sweet thing to have also

                                    and for people like me, it's the only thing we've got going for us.

                                    1995 Mustang
                                    CAI, rimz, and springs.

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                                      9.26 @ 151

                                      Way too hot to be in a leather suit.

                                      I thought the leather whip & mask were a nice touch though!! 😄

                                      I thought Sheldon Root's 8 Second pass in the Street Legal Vega was impressive, hard to believe he still cruises on the streets with it,what a freaky accident to shut him down early.

                                      The guys nuts running those times on the street legal tires he has......(Correction, I errored, he is Canadian...... :eek: )

                                      "Will Work for Food"

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                                        DaveH
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                                        Yeah, that is a very cool car.... but whats with the tiny 106mm turbo? :eek:

                                        homer wrote:
                                        I thought the leather whip & mask were a nice touch though!! 😄

                                        I thought Sheldon Root's 8 Second pass in the Street Legal Vega was impressive, hard to believe he still cruises on the streets with it,what a freaky accident to shut him down early.

                                        The guys nuts running those times on the street legal tires he has......(Correction, I errored, he is Canadian...... :eek: )

                                        DaveH
                                        '94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph

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                                          Talked to him for about an hour on Sunday, very cool guy.

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