Motor choice

[seanjohn]

btleier wrote:
BUT... bottom line is if you want over 300whp........ you'll either need to b-series turbo, or a well built d-series.

I completely agree. The fact of the matter is that you can have as many d-series motors as you are willing to pick up out of people's driveways....b-series are still expensive to replace. Blow up a d-series?!?!?....who cares. In a turbo app there isn't many up's to have the b-motor.

[btleier]

agreed. however it also depends on the person, if you decide to test the limits of the stock d-series make sure that you are willing to put in the time to swap motors/trannies/clutches... if you're not willing to do that, this may not be the route for you.

[bluejays]

what i was saying was, simple bolt ons ie: headers, exhaust, cai doesn't increase hp very much on any B, D, H, F series honda engine.

as far as going D or B if he plans on going with around 300 hp. i have this feeling its going to end up costing him more in parts and labor with a D series in the end, because 300 hp is about as much as you can push out of the D and thats built. now if you blow that up you have to buy another have it built and put in again. 300 hp out of a B series is relatively descent power for a B. your not pushing it to its limits so parts breaking isn't quite as much of a problem.

just out of curiosity what has tufte all replaced on his D? and what has gsr all replaced on his B?

[Jim]

^ i think you underestimate honda motors.

also, bolt ons never do shit....

[Guest]

to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

b16-2000$
sleeves-1000$
supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
huge turbo-1000$
labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows

[PSiedTSi]

nick made 267whp out of a stock D-series why would building it only be able to yield 300hp? Building a D-series is cheap as hell cause you can get D-series for cheap as hell...

[btleier]

spoolude wrote:
to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

b16-2000$
sleeves-1000$
supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
huge turbo-1000$
labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows

untrue.... there are a plenty of guys running ridiculous hp numbers on stock sleeves now 400-500whp. go hop on honda-tech and look. they're been using forged internals, but have been keeping the stock sleeves.

[Bryce]

spoolude wrote:
to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

b16-2000$
sleeves-1000$
supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
huge turbo-1000$
labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows
Damn it Spoolude, we should ban you from "Car Tech"...

[HandoEX]

LankorDie wrote:
Damn it Spoolude, we should ban you from "Car Tech"...
Bryce, can you help me swap an f20c (s2000) head into my accord... :rolleyes:

[Bryce]

HandoEX wrote:
Bryce, can you help me swap an f20c (s2000) head into my accord... :rolleyes:
Hahaha, yeah I'm on my way!

[krzydrftr93]

im thinking the b18c1 is sounding good. Are they quick stock?

[PSiedTSi]

krzydrftr93 wrote:
im thinking the b18c1 is sounding good. Are they quick stock?

170hp

[krzydrftr93]

that would move a hatch pretty good wouldnt it. I mean yait should move it a lot better then the d15 91 hp moves it. What do you think i could run in the 1/4 with the b18c1?

[btleier]

I don't know times, but yeah that would move a hatchback quite well.

[civtegra]

My hatch has a blown head gasket and it ran a 15.5 with a header and a short cold air intake. i guess from wut i heard not sayin its true but i heard that a htch wit a b18c1 should make a high 14 aec in a 1/4

[Phats]

14 flat is what 2 guys that did their gsr swaps ran.....with moderate supporting mods, suspension.....intake exhaust header etc.......

[krzydrftr93]

14 sec hatch pretty much stock. Well i can beat ricer mustang then. LOL that would be shane. That is cool. 14 is a lot better then the 20 eclipse

[krzydrftr93]

Does anyone know where i can get the following complete swap cheaper:

B18C 94-97 (GSR) Complete Change Over

Price: $ 3149.00 Plus shipping and handling.
Availability: In stock and ready to go.

• Motor
• Hydraulic Tranny (S80, Y80)
• ECU (P72)
• Axles with Half Shaft
• Shift Linkage
• Stock Motor Mounts *
• Alternator
• Starter
• Clutch
• Flywheel
• Intake Manifold
• Exhaust Manifold
• Fuel Rail
• Injectors
• Distributor
• Engine Harness
• Comes With All Sensors Needed
• LSD Tranny (Optional +$300)

Motors average 35,000 miles and come with a 100% start up warranty. All Sensors are guaranteed not broken and in working condition!

• Please Note: We now offer the Hasport Hydraulic tranny to cable car conversion kit for $429. Also available is the Hasport High Horsepower upgraded motor mount kit for $300.

thanks

[integra_gsr98]

That's a good deal on the motor. However when you do that you are going to want to do the following:

Headgasket
Timing Belt
Alternator Belt
and a Clutch

Those are the 4 things I recommend on EVERY swap. Because you really have no idea how many miles are on the motor, how long its sat, etc.

[civtegra]

integra_gsr98 wrote:
That's a good deal on the motor. However when you do that you are going to want to do the following:

Headgasket
Timing Belt
Alternator Belt
and a Clutch

Those are the 4 things I recommend on EVERY swap. Because you really have no idea how many miles are on the motor, how long its sat, etc.

yeah that is very true.