Motor choice

[bluejays]

what i was saying was, simple bolt ons ie: headers, exhaust, cai doesn't increase hp very much on any B, D, H, F series honda engine.

as far as going D or B if he plans on going with around 300 hp. i have this feeling its going to end up costing him more in parts and labor with a D series in the end, because 300 hp is about as much as you can push out of the D and thats built. now if you blow that up you have to buy another have it built and put in again. 300 hp out of a B series is relatively descent power for a B. your not pushing it to its limits so parts breaking isn't quite as much of a problem.

just out of curiosity what has tufte all replaced on his D? and what has gsr all replaced on his B?

[Jim]

^ i think you underestimate honda motors.

also, bolt ons never do shit....

[Guest]

to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

b16-2000$
sleeves-1000$
supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
huge turbo-1000$
labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows

[PSiedTSi]

nick made 267whp out of a stock D-series why would building it only be able to yield 300hp? Building a D-series is cheap as hell cause you can get D-series for cheap as hell...

[btleier]

spoolude wrote:
to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

b16-2000$
sleeves-1000$
supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
huge turbo-1000$
labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows

untrue.... there are a plenty of guys running ridiculous hp numbers on stock sleeves now 400-500whp. go hop on honda-tech and look. they're been using forged internals, but have been keeping the stock sleeves.

[Bryce]

spoolude wrote:
to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

b16-2000$
sleeves-1000$
supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
huge turbo-1000$
labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows
Damn it Spoolude, we should ban you from "Car Tech"...

[HandoEX]

LankorDie wrote:
Damn it Spoolude, we should ban you from "Car Tech"...
Bryce, can you help me swap an f20c (s2000) head into my accord... :rolleyes:

[Bryce]

HandoEX wrote:
Bryce, can you help me swap an f20c (s2000) head into my accord... :rolleyes:
Hahaha, yeah I'm on my way!

[krzydrftr93]

im thinking the b18c1 is sounding good. Are they quick stock?

[PSiedTSi]

krzydrftr93 wrote:
im thinking the b18c1 is sounding good. Are they quick stock?

170hp

[krzydrftr93]

that would move a hatch pretty good wouldnt it. I mean yait should move it a lot better then the d15 91 hp moves it. What do you think i could run in the 1/4 with the b18c1?

[btleier]

I don't know times, but yeah that would move a hatchback quite well.

[civtegra]

My hatch has a blown head gasket and it ran a 15.5 with a header and a short cold air intake. i guess from wut i heard not sayin its true but i heard that a htch wit a b18c1 should make a high 14 aec in a 1/4

[Phats]

14 flat is what 2 guys that did their gsr swaps ran.....with moderate supporting mods, suspension.....intake exhaust header etc.......

[krzydrftr93]

14 sec hatch pretty much stock. Well i can beat ricer mustang then. LOL that would be shane. That is cool. 14 is a lot better then the 20 eclipse

[krzydrftr93]

Does anyone know where i can get the following complete swap cheaper:

B18C 94-97 (GSR) Complete Change Over

Price: $ 3149.00 Plus shipping and handling.
Availability: In stock and ready to go.

• Motor
• Hydraulic Tranny (S80, Y80)
• ECU (P72)
• Axles with Half Shaft
• Shift Linkage
• Stock Motor Mounts *
• Alternator
• Starter
• Clutch
• Flywheel
• Intake Manifold
• Exhaust Manifold
• Fuel Rail
• Injectors
• Distributor
• Engine Harness
• Comes With All Sensors Needed
• LSD Tranny (Optional +$300)

Motors average 35,000 miles and come with a 100% start up warranty. All Sensors are guaranteed not broken and in working condition!

• Please Note: We now offer the Hasport Hydraulic tranny to cable car conversion kit for $429. Also available is the Hasport High Horsepower upgraded motor mount kit for $300.

thanks

[integra_gsr98]

That's a good deal on the motor. However when you do that you are going to want to do the following:

Headgasket
Timing Belt
Alternator Belt
and a Clutch

Those are the 4 things I recommend on EVERY swap. Because you really have no idea how many miles are on the motor, how long its sat, etc.

[civtegra]

integra_gsr98 wrote:
That's a good deal on the motor. However when you do that you are going to want to do the following:

Headgasket
Timing Belt
Alternator Belt
and a Clutch

Those are the 4 things I recommend on EVERY swap. Because you really have no idea how many miles are on the motor, how long its sat, etc.

yeah that is very true.

[PSI2HI]

Buying/looking for the cheapest swap out there is just not going to be in your best interest. Buy the most complete and best warrantied swap regardless of price unless you wanna buy twice.

[Guest]

yeah most of them say they have 30-50k....but usually have 130-150k on them....there are soem cheaper places than that i think they offer a 6 month warranty also.

And include all of those parts also.

If u buy a motor...make sure everything that is supposed to come with it actually comes with it....otherwise you gotta spend more money that you shouldnt have to!