For the import haters
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zbrown;282492 wrote:
GM has more models that get better than 30 mpg than HondaYeah, but how many of them are essentially the same car across 3 different brands? (Pontiac, Saturn, Chevy)
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KA-T_240;282578 wrote:
Word! I love me Isuzu!Also on the subject of new diesels..... DPF FTMFL.
TRUTH!
i love this debate, i really do. but are we seriously talking about hp/litre, gayest argument i have ever heard. and why would you build a race car, hi hp car and think about MPG at all. hell the only MPG sort of thing i even think about is diesel fuel/hr on our tractors and such. i dont even think about mpg at all, infact i dont really even pay attention to gas prices, your going to buy the gas or diesel anyways right?
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SPANISH-RICE;282636 wrote:
i think we are trying to compare 2 very different things. Obviously for huge hp cars like 1000hp+ your going to run out of enough motor to even move enough air. But what i'm saying is your shit box domestics cant make a decent product. This isn't just who makes more power. Its that the only way those companies know how to make power is by going the easy route. God forbid your crappy domestic companies will innovate something worth giving a shit about.And besides we dont need huge 1000+ hp cars to go fast. Thats the beauty of power/weight. We can go 9's with 450+
your ignorance is astounding, you really are as dumb as you sound is all im gathering from your posts. And put your money where your mouth is and go 9s with 450hp in a FWD. In fact, i challenge anyone on here to go 11s on street tires, not DRs, street tires and pump gas 91 in ANY honda FWD that you nutswing on all the time. I did it, on the first time to the track, and i got 24mpg on that tank, in a 364ci v8, not to mention i used it to haul a complete engine a couple days before that, and had 5 people in it a couple days before that, comfortably. The world does not operate on 4cyl hondas like you think. It operates on full size 4wd v8 pickups and suvs, which, BTW, are categories honda cant seem to compete in at all especially in fuel economy and capacity
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zbrown;282566 wrote:
what the hell is plugging the block in going to do for gelling??LOL , I better not see any bashing on the Dmax from you import fanboys..... as it is an Izuzu
120 volt fuel heaters, best investment on a diesel used up here during winter in my opinion.
http://refrigeratedtrans.com/mag/transportation_fuel_heaterwater_separator/
KA-T_240;282578 wrote:
Word! I love me Isuzu!Also on the subject of new diesels..... DPF FTMFL.
Look up the emissions for 2010 diesels, this is the reason I don't have time to debate healthcare and import vs domestic. Gov't is making us diesel guys plenty of research and training just about mandatory to do our jobs with all the new epa standards.
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this argument has turned to shit, thanks zac, parker, and gary....
you guys really need to get a clue, it was never about who was faster or w/e
as ANYONE knows that rwd is better for drag racing. just like mid engine is better for handling(weight distribution and all).
So why pound the fact into the ground. we get it, and i have never said fwd>rwd.
and ws6transam..... what does having a 11 sec car and having one that is capable of running 11's different? thats the same thing as saying i have a zr1 corvette it ran xx.x in the 1/4 mile.( by a pro). does that mean i don't have a car that runs xx.x in the 1/4?
you smoking something buddy?
also how does mpg NOT come into effect with a car. why would i build a car that get 8mpg with the same "potential" as a car that can get 25-35 mpg?
ask gary as he is braggin up his mpg, he must be stupid....
think about it a honda can go run 10's and still drive around getting 35+ mpg. that is impressive no matter how you look at it.
can a v8 do it, maybe but most likely not. i can't even beleave you guys are arguing mpg. i mean there is no argument from the v8 side. admit 4cyl is better for mileage. just like a big ass v8 can make big ass hp.
/argument
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DrifterExtreme;282721 wrote:
as ANYONE knows that rwd is better for drag racing. just like mid engine is better for handling(weight distribution and all).lol so what would FWD be better at?? grocery getting in the snow?...... I mean since you say RWD is only better for drag racing
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zbrown;282730 wrote:
lol so what would FWD be better at?? grocery getting in the snow?...... I mean since you say RWD is only better for drag racingreally where did i say ONLY? i said it was better at drag racing. don't twist what i said.
also where did i say fwd was better? it can be effectively used well. i think we can agree on that.
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MisterCMK;282747 wrote:
Go be poor somewhere else if you can't afford to put gas in your car. Who the fuck cares about gas mileage?oh yeah i forgot i'm poor because i don't like to waste money.....
cmk hits a new low?
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DrifterExtreme;282783 wrote:
oh yeah i forgot i'm poor because i don't like to waste money.....cmk hits a new low?
Wasting money is buying something of low quality and then having to buy it again in a week when it is broken. Enjoying a vehicle is hardly considered wasting money.
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63vette;282786 wrote:
Its like watching 2 monkeys fucking a football.....Pics or video or it didn't happen.
Sterling Archer: Oh my god! You killed a hooker!
Cyril Figgis: Call girl!
Sterling Archer: No Cyril! When they're dead they're just hookers!
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63vette;282786 wrote:
Its like watching 2 monkeys fucking a football.....dementia setting in early for ya old man?
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nice Days of Thunder quote there 63vette...I LOL'ed
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Lol at everything. My pos tracer gets the same gas mileage as your precious hondas. And I just replaced my original thermostat this week. The only thing that has ever gone wrong with that thing is the tranny went out at 180,000 miles due to my fault. And 2 timing belts but thats expected. Now that thing has 210,000 miles and ill line it up stock for stock with any honda with over 200k. Yea Im going to turbo it eventually for shits and giggles. But ill admit that rwd anything is better than any fwd. Im just doing this because its cheaper for me and I can actually do my own shit.
And if you wanna go hp/liter well the mazda gtr which uses the same exact motor as my tracer can pump out over 325whp on stock turbo. So lets see at 1.8 liters id say thats well over 100hp/liter. Show me a honda using all oem parts ruinning 12s.
I didnt get my pos fwd because I thought it would be fast.
And seriously quit taking about gas mileage, if your worried about gas mileage your in the wrong game. Go hug some trees or something.
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