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  • harwood39H Offline
    harwood39H Offline
    harwood39
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    :eek: My civic is running very lean. I know this because i "read the spark plugs". Here are some pics. The pics are kinda crappy quallity. 😞

    plug1.JPG
    plug2.JPG

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    • B Offline
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      btleier
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      #2

      how in god's name is your stock civic running that lean... what have you done to it? where is the timing set at?

      even if it was fully advanced you shouldn't be able to do that.

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      • dubbsyD Offline
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        dubbsy
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        #3

        holy crap. what is that, about .020 gap on there?

        and yeah, think it needs just a bit more fuel....

        1995 Mustang
        CAI, rimz, and springs.

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        • harwood39H Offline
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          harwood39
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          i have no clue what the timing is set at, i havent had time to look. and all i have is exhaust. i really need to get it tuned.

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          • JimJ Offline
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            Jim
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            #5

            Um. What are you going to tune it with?

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            • O Offline
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              out there
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              #6

              maybe your injectors are clogged? does it ever feel laggy? perhaps there's a bottleneck in your fuel system? i'd run a couple of bottles of injector cleaner through and rod on it really aggressively for a few hours/days, make sure your new plugs are gapped properly. if that doesn't work, get it professionally checked out

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              • harwood39H Offline
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                harwood39
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                I would bring it to the dealer to get it tuned. They are the only place i know of that can do it.

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                • O Offline
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                  out there
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                  #8

                  your car is mechanically stock, there is no tuning required. the only problems you have are more than likely hardware (unless there was some sort of malfunction with the ecu).

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                  • dubbsyD Offline
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                    dubbsy
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                    #9

                    you need a tune UP, not a tune. Like they're saying, if your car is that close to stock...you've got problems outside of a tune.

                    I'll assume there's no CEL? weird that a car would be running that lean and have no CEL (or are civics like that?)

                    that exhaust cat back? ...or were you screwing with O2 sensors and cats?

                    1995 Mustang
                    CAI, rimz, and springs.

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                    • integra_gsr98I Offline
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                      integra_gsr98
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                      #10

                      Looks to me like spark plugs out of a relatively stock car.
                      My integra always had plugs that looked like that when it was stock.

                      As long as they're not speckled, you're fine.

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                        tqisking
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                        #11

                        I agree with integra....plugs look fine but maybe 1 heat range to hot....if there are no black specs then let it run....

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                        • harwood39H Offline
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                          harwood39
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          no black specs, i dont need a tune up, if i need any thing, they need to adjust the injectors, i had a rich problem with my old car, they just plug into the ECU, and adjust the injectors.

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                            24valvenotak
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                            I second the heat range idea. I would rather spend six bucks on new plugs then sixty taking it to the dealer only to find nothing is wrong.

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                            • harwood39H Offline
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                              harwood39
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              im doin the plugs first. than if that doesnt help im taking it in.

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                                treimche
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                                Umm, since when can someone plug into your car and "adjust" your injectors? Is this something new? Never have I heard of such a thing unless you have some type of stand alone engine management or a modified ecu of some sort.

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                                  harwood39
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                                  #16

                                  wow, where have you been, they have been able to do that since they started using fuel injection. How do you think they can do a tune up, they have to do it in a tune up depending on how its running. Go to a dealership and ask around.

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                                    PSiedTSi
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                                    i think what your talkin about is a scan tool you gave everyone the wrong perception of what you were talkin about im assuming...i dont think you can "adjust" the injectors...if you can wow i guess i learned somethin new but ive done pretty extensive work with scantools and never been taught that you can just "adjust" them...i know you can look and see the pulse width, fuel trim etc...keep in mind they used fuel injection back in the 50s and 60s in the corvette and prolly some other vehicles you might wanna watch your statement

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                                      integra_gsr98
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                                      harwood39 wrote:
                                      wow, where have you been, they have been able to do that since they started using fuel injection. How do you think they can do a tune up, they have to do it in a tune up depending on how its running. Go to a dealership and ask around.

                                      Haha. If you knew anything about Honda ecu's you would know that they cannot "adjust" your injectors at the dealership. But from what it seems you know everything about Hondas. Just because your car has fuel injection doesn't mean your car's "fuel injectors can be modified."

                                      Tell me how the VW dealers adjust fuel injection settings on a car with mechanical fuel injection?

                                      When you answer that let me know.

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                                        24valvenotak
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                                        better yet lets see the reciept from the last time you took your car to the dealership and had them adjust the pulse...then we will have something else to laught at....you getting raped.

                                        Getcher green hat, we are goin fishin.

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                                          harwood39
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                                          #20

                                          haha, i wasnt thinking straight, but the can adjust the pulse, at least on nissans. As long as its ELECTRONIC FUEL INJECTION. I was goin to get it done on my 300ZX right before i blew the motor, cause it was running supper rich. I know absolutely nothing about hondas. and its not a couple hundred dollar scan tool they use, its a few thousand dollar computer, i was goin to buy one of these for my 300ZX but i didnt have $6000.

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