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    seanjohn
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    bluejays wrote:
    fyi, bolt ons don't do hardly anything to any honda engines except k series

    ...???

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      btleier
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      BUT... bottom line is if you want over 300whp........ you'll either need to b-series turbo, or a well built d-series.

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        seanjohn
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        btleier wrote:
        BUT... bottom line is if you want over 300whp........ you'll either need to b-series turbo, or a well built d-series.

        I completely agree. The fact of the matter is that you can have as many d-series motors as you are willing to pick up out of people's driveways....b-series are still expensive to replace. Blow up a d-series?!?!?....who cares. In a turbo app there isn't many up's to have the b-motor.

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          btleier
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          agreed. however it also depends on the person, if you decide to test the limits of the stock d-series make sure that you are willing to put in the time to swap motors/trannies/clutches... if you're not willing to do that, this may not be the route for you.

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            bluejays
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            what i was saying was, simple bolt ons ie: headers, exhaust, cai doesn't increase hp very much on any B, D, H, F series honda engine.

            as far as going D or B if he plans on going with around 300 hp. i have this feeling its going to end up costing him more in parts and labor with a D series in the end, because 300 hp is about as much as you can push out of the D and thats built. now if you blow that up you have to buy another have it built and put in again. 300 hp out of a B series is relatively descent power for a B. your not pushing it to its limits so parts breaking isn't quite as much of a problem.

            just out of curiosity what has tufte all replaced on his D? and what has gsr all replaced on his B?

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              Jim
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              ^ i think you underestimate honda motors.

              also, bolt ons never do shit....

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                to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

                b16-2000$
                sleeves-1000$
                supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
                huge turbo-1000$
                labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows

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                  PSiedTSi
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                  nick made 267whp out of a stock D-series why would building it only be able to yield 300hp? Building a D-series is cheap as hell cause you can get D-series for cheap as hell...

                  At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                  92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                  95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                  1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                  Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                  > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                  > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                    btleier
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                    spoolude wrote:
                    to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

                    b16-2000$
                    sleeves-1000$
                    supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
                    huge turbo-1000$
                    labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows

                    untrue.... there are a plenty of guys running ridiculous hp numbers on stock sleeves now 400-500whp. go hop on honda-tech and look. they're been using forged internals, but have been keeping the stock sleeves.

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                      Bryce
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                      spoolude wrote:
                      to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

                      b16-2000$
                      sleeves-1000$
                      supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
                      huge turbo-1000$
                      labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows
                      Damn it Spoolude, we should ban you from "Car Tech"...

                      88 Honda crx Si-B16 turbo street car, 06 Civic Si- DD

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                        HandoEX
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                        LankorDie wrote:
                        Damn it Spoolude, we should ban you from "Car Tech"...
                        Bryce, can you help me swap an f20c (s2000) head into my accord... 😄 :rolleyes: 😉 😛

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                          Bryce
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                          HandoEX wrote:
                          Bryce, can you help me swap an f20c (s2000) head into my accord... 😄 :rolleyes: 😉 😛
                          Hahaha, yeah I'm on my way! 🙂

                          88 Honda crx Si-B16 turbo street car, 06 Civic Si- DD

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                            krzydrftr93
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                            im thinking the b18c1 is sounding good. Are they quick stock?

                            Matt
                            92 Civic HB
                            JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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                              PSiedTSi
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                              krzydrftr93 wrote:
                              im thinking the b18c1 is sounding good. Are they quick stock?

                              170hp

                              At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                              92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                              95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                              1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                              Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                              > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                              > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                                krzydrftr93
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                                that would move a hatch pretty good wouldnt it. I mean yait should move it a lot better then the d15 91 hp moves it. What do you think i could run in the 1/4 with the b18c1?

                                Matt
                                92 Civic HB
                                JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
                                legacy image

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                                  btleier
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                                  I don't know times, but yeah that would move a hatchback quite well.

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                                    civtegra
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                                    My hatch has a blown head gasket and it ran a 15.5 with a header and a short cold air intake. i guess from wut i heard not sayin its true but i heard that a htch wit a b18c1 should make a high 14 aec in a 1/4

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                                      Phats
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                                      14 flat is what 2 guys that did their gsr swaps ran.....with moderate supporting mods, suspension.....intake exhaust header etc.......

                                      02 GSXR-1000
                                      97 540i

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                                        krzydrftr93
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                                        14 sec hatch pretty much stock. Well i can beat ricer mustang then. LOL that would be shane. That is cool. 14 is a lot better then the 20 eclipse

                                        Matt
                                        92 Civic HB
                                        JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
                                        legacy image

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                                          krzydrftr93
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                                          Does anyone know where i can get the following complete swap cheaper:

                                          B18C 94-97 (GSR) Complete Change Over

                                          Price: $ 3149.00 Plus shipping and handling.
                                          Availability: In stock and ready to go.

                                          • Motor
                                          • Hydraulic Tranny (S80, Y80)
                                          • ECU (P72)
                                          • Axles with Half Shaft
                                          • Shift Linkage
                                          • Stock Motor Mounts *
                                          • Alternator
                                          • Starter
                                          • Clutch
                                          • Flywheel
                                          • Intake Manifold
                                          • Exhaust Manifold
                                          • Fuel Rail
                                          • Injectors
                                          • Distributor
                                          • Engine Harness
                                          • Comes With All Sensors Needed
                                          • LSD Tranny (Optional +$300)

                                          Motors average 35,000 miles and come with a 100% start up warranty. All Sensors are guaranteed not broken and in working condition!

                                          • Please Note: We now offer the Hasport Hydraulic tranny to cable car conversion kit for $429. Also available is the Hasport High Horsepower upgraded motor mount kit for $300.

                                          thanks

                                          Matt
                                          92 Civic HB
                                          JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
                                          legacy image

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