Motor choice
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btleier wrote:
BUT... bottom line is if you want over 300whp........ you'll either need to b-series turbo, or a well built d-series.I completely agree. The fact of the matter is that you can have as many d-series motors as you are willing to pick up out of people's driveways....b-series are still expensive to replace. Blow up a d-series?!?!?....who cares. In a turbo app there isn't many up's to have the b-motor.
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agreed. however it also depends on the person, if you decide to test the limits of the stock d-series make sure that you are willing to put in the time to swap motors/trannies/clutches... if you're not willing to do that, this may not be the route for you.
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what i was saying was, simple bolt ons ie: headers, exhaust, cai doesn't increase hp very much on any B, D, H, F series honda engine.
as far as going D or B if he plans on going with around 300 hp. i have this feeling its going to end up costing him more in parts and labor with a D series in the end, because 300 hp is about as much as you can push out of the D and thats built. now if you blow that up you have to buy another have it built and put in again. 300 hp out of a B series is relatively descent power for a B. your not pushing it to its limits so parts breaking isn't quite as much of a problem.
just out of curiosity what has tufte all replaced on his D? and what has gsr all replaced on his B?
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to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..
b16-2000$
sleeves-1000$
supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
huge turbo-1000$
labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows -
spoolude wrote:
to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..b16-2000$
sleeves-1000$
supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
huge turbo-1000$
labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knowsuntrue.... there are a plenty of guys running ridiculous hp numbers on stock sleeves now 400-500whp. go hop on honda-tech and look. they're been using forged internals, but have been keeping the stock sleeves.
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spoolude wrote:
to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..b16-2000$
sleeves-1000$
supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
huge turbo-1000$
labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows
Damn it Spoolude, we should ban you from "Car Tech"... -
im thinking the b18c1 is sounding good. Are they quick stock?
Matt
92 Civic HB
JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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that would move a hatch pretty good wouldnt it. I mean yait should move it a lot better then the d15 91 hp moves it. What do you think i could run in the 1/4 with the b18c1?
Matt
92 Civic HB
JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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14 sec hatch pretty much stock. Well i can beat ricer mustang then. LOL that would be shane. That is cool. 14 is a lot better then the 20 eclipse
Matt
92 Civic HB
JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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Does anyone know where i can get the following complete swap cheaper:
B18C 94-97 (GSR) Complete Change Over
Price: $ 3149.00 Plus shipping and handling.
Availability: In stock and ready to go.- Motor
- Hydraulic Tranny (S80, Y80)
- ECU (P72)
- Axles with Half Shaft
- Shift Linkage
- Stock Motor Mounts *
- Alternator
- Starter
- Clutch
- Flywheel
- Intake Manifold
- Exhaust Manifold
- Fuel Rail
- Injectors
- Distributor
- Engine Harness
- Comes With All Sensors Needed
- LSD Tranny (Optional +$300)
Motors average 35,000 miles and come with a 100% start up warranty. All Sensors are guaranteed not broken and in working condition!
- Please Note: We now offer the Hasport Hydraulic tranny to cable car conversion kit for $429. Also available is the Hasport High Horsepower upgraded motor mount kit for $300.
thanks
Matt
92 Civic HB
JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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That's a good deal on the motor. However when you do that you are going to want to do the following:
Headgasket
Timing Belt
Alternator Belt
and a ClutchThose are the 4 things I recommend on EVERY swap. Because you really have no idea how many miles are on the motor, how long its sat, etc.
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